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Yeah best way to solve this issue is to install linux. It's simply amazing how stable it is, and well suited for desktop use. If you absolutely must use windows

Yeah best way to solve this issue is to install linux. It's simply amazing how stable it is, and well suited for desktop use. If you absolutely must use windows, then install it inside a VM for office tools. Can't believe how much better the UI looks in linux (kde in my case, but so do other WMs), stable the overall system is, and how good it feels to finally not pay a corporation to spy on me.

yoyopa 3y ago
there are things called applications people use to do stuff... many of which are not available on linux
- notatoad 3y ago
  and one of those applications that isn't available for linux is quicken. if you're having a problem with an app, switching to an operating system that doesn't support that app at all is certainly one way to solve it.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    Interesting, two people raising issues with quicken in the same thread. What are the odds. If you absolutely must run that app then use windows for that app. No one’s saying you shouldnt use the best tool for the task at hand, quite the contrary. Although i am curious if quicken would run well in wine. It would def run well inside a vm.
    - notatoad 3y ago
      >two people raising issues with quicken in the same thread. What are the odds pretty good odds, in the discussion for an article about quicken...
ddtaylor 3y ago
I have done this on Linux where my different WINE prefixes (like the ones managed by Bottles) can have different configurations. My gaming profile for example has none of the libraries or fonts needed to run Photoshop, etc.
zer8k 3y ago
Linux DISTRIBUTIONS have their own set of problems. There are a lot of reasons to run Windows that aren't games. For example, the level of support you get for server-based stuff is very nice as a corporation. It's also more consistent. No, I don't mean "correct" all the time. I mean with Windows things fail consistently (well...except for drivers) and things work consistently. It's far more polished. As a Linux daily driver it's not hard to see the benefits of Windows over a popular Linux distribution. You may be able to close the gap with a (rather expensive) support contract but at that point you also may have been better off with Windows. Using a Linux distribution is often a time commitment and change of philosophy. I, like you, are willing to make the trade. I notice this opinion (that Windows is terrible) to be particularly pervasive among the tech literate but inexperienced. There is an entire contingent of the US alone (probably 80%) that is completely and fully served by a simple, easy to manage, easy to use Windows installation. If you've never tried to get your parents to use Linux even Ubuntu is often asking too much (though its getting better). That's not their fault. Once again, switching to the Linux Way (TM) is a lifestyle. Just your example alone (the UI is cleaner) can diverge into something almost worth an entire collegiate degree. It's only recently with snaps that Ubuntu and Co. have approached a degree of usability that might constitute 0.5% or less more uptake. Perhaps for your use case Windows sucks. But having recently ported off Ubuntu LTS to the latest and greatest I can tell you that it was miserable. There's nothing quite like repeatedly crashing to a tty and having to parse boot logs to figure out what screwed up. It's a suffering I am willing to do both for the philosophy of Linux and the benefits I get. The further away from "consumer" Linux distributions you get the graph of difficulty goes hockey-stick real fast. Let's not pretend Windows is useless spyware. It is nasty stuff for privacy but it is certainly not pointless.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  Using windows for servers is plain wrong and usually reserved for the inexperienced, and you stating the opposite is just a projection. The only issue in linux is with proprietary software that microsoft intentionally limits to its own os.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago

yoyopa 3y ago

there are things called applications people use to do stuff... many of which are not available on linux

notatoad 3y ago
and one of those applications that isn't available for linux is quicken. if you're having a problem with an app, switching to an operating system that doesn't support that app at all is certainly one way to solve it.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  Interesting, two people raising issues with quicken in the same thread. What are the odds. If you absolutely must run that app then use windows for that app. No one’s saying you shouldnt use the best tool for the task at hand, quite the contrary. Although i am curious if quicken would run well in wine. It would def run well inside a vm.
  - notatoad 3y ago
    >two people raising issues with quicken in the same thread. What are the odds pretty good odds, in the discussion for an article about quicken...

ddtaylor 3y ago

I have done this on Linux where my different WINE prefixes (like the ones managed by Bottles) can have different configurations. My gaming profile for example has none of the libraries or fonts needed to run Photoshop, etc.

zer8k 3y ago

Linux DISTRIBUTIONS have their own set of problems. There are a lot of reasons to run Windows that aren't games. For example, the level of support you get for server-based stuff is very nice as a corporation. It's also more consistent. No, I don't mean "correct" all the time. I mean with Windows things fail consistently (well...except for drivers) and things work consistently. It's far more polished. As a Linux daily driver it's not hard to see the benefits of Windows over a popular Linux distribution. You may be able to close the gap with a (rather expensive) support contract but at that point you also may have been better off with Windows. Using a Linux distribution is often a time commitment and change of philosophy. I, like you, are willing to make the trade. I notice this opinion (that Windows is terrible) to be particularly pervasive among the tech literate but inexperienced. There is an entire contingent of the US alone (probably 80%) that is completely and fully served by a simple, easy to manage, easy to use Windows installation. If you've never tried to get your parents to use Linux even Ubuntu is often asking too much (though its getting better). That's not their fault. Once again, switching to the Linux Way (TM) is a lifestyle. Just your example alone (the UI is cleaner) can diverge into something almost worth an entire collegiate degree. It's only recently with snaps that Ubuntu and Co. have approached a degree of usability that might constitute 0.5% or less more uptake. Perhaps for your use case Windows sucks. But having recently ported off Ubuntu LTS to the latest and greatest I can tell you that it was miserable. There's nothing quite like repeatedly crashing to a tty and having to parse boot logs to figure out what screwed up. It's a suffering I am willing to do both for the philosophy of Linux and the benefits I get. The further away from "consumer" Linux distributions you get the graph of difficulty goes hockey-stick real fast. Let's not pretend Windows is useless spyware. It is nasty stuff for privacy but it is certainly not pointless.

gumballindie 3y ago
Using windows for servers is plain wrong and usually reserved for the inexperienced, and you stating the opposite is just a projection. The only issue in linux is with proprietary software that microsoft intentionally limits to its own os.
- mrguyorama 3y ago