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The dynamics set up if such research pans out seem really similar to existing shitty dynamics in our society regarding women. Attractive young woman who are int

The dynamics set up if such research pans out seem really similar to existing shitty dynamics in our society regarding women. Attractive young woman who are interested in adult entertainment have the opportunity to make a lot of money between 18 - 30. Then that certain career path quickly evaporates. Guys could feel jealous missing out on that opportunity but how much it feel to have the most lucrative years of your life be when you're young? What does it say about society that it financially values you the most when you have the least actual power in your life? Very similar to donating young blood, it's not likely donating blood will lead to the career of managing blood donation. You're useful then you can't own the club you're stripping at or the donation center. It's just you're used then "cool you're old now hope you saved enough for a coding boot camp". Some research just seems like it could solely increase existing power imbalances.

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carlosjobim 3y ago
> What does it say about society... "Society" is a lie that was invented by corrupted old people in order to extract things from young people in a parasitic manner, by making young people work for them (labour, taxes, rent, you name it), take care of them, be abused by them, fuck them, go die in a war for them, and finally now literally give their blood to be sucked. "Society" and every derivative from that myth are lies created for the purpose above. Some never understand the scam, most strive to themselves trade their position of host to a position of beneficiary. Very few try to reject the abuse. It is no coincidence that every single political ideology, economic system and organized religion are built to transfer from the young to the old.
- dealuromanet 3y ago
  What you said is unbelievably stupid. Society resulted in science and technology which drastically increased life span and health span for the majority of people who have lived and are living. Society has lifted billions out of poverty and created wonderful opportunities for the average person who would've otherwise been a peasant living a short brutish life unable to learn and enjoy things. We all participate in society, work in society, build society, rest in society, and benefit from society. People who paid their dues doing these things receive retirement at old age because of society. You can find edge cases where society isn't perfect, but none of these edge cases will justify the sweeping claims you made. You threw the baby out with the bathwater big time. You're pretty much advocating for anarchy and chaos. Economic systems and religious systems exist because they are useful abstractions. Sometimes they map onto physical reality and correctly measure and explain the movement of commodities and as a result we get a more connected world and more trade. When the abstractions don't serve us well anymore, they get upgraded to address new complexity. That is why we have economic theory. Sometimes these abstractions map onto human emotions and lived experience across the spectrum of ages to give people hope and to answer the questions science cannot. That is why we have religions. They're all beautiful, they're all abstractions that are useful, and they exist because everyone wants them to. There is no conspiracy by the old to subsume the young.
  - carlosjobim 3y ago
    You have replaced God with "society" in your mind, and that's why you attack me with religious fervor, forgetting polite behaviour. There is no society and has never existed any society. It is a common myth, designed to organize people and to let some groups benefit at the expense of other groups - and to always let old people benefit at the expense of young people, because old people are not fit to compete. "Paid their dues" is one of those myths, that translates to telling young people that they owe old people something for being born. Which is of course a lie, nobody is born indebted. If "anarchy and chaos" is the option to having your blood sucked, I know what I chose. All human progress is thanks to individuals who have made inventions and discoveries. Since modern man doesn't believe in God, and is too proud to acknowledge the greatness of their fellow man, they instead turn to the fairy-tale myth of a "society" who they say made everything possible, saved the whole mankind from slavery and poverty, and so on. Feel free to do what you think is good for "society". I will do what's good for me and my fellow man.
    - dealuromanet 3y ago
      God made society.

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carlosjobim 3y ago

> What does it say about society... "Society" is a lie that was invented by corrupted old people in order to extract things from young people in a parasitic manner, by making young people work for them (labour, taxes, rent, you name it), take care of them, be abused by them, fuck them, go die in a war for them, and finally now literally give their blood to be sucked. "Society" and every derivative from that myth are lies created for the purpose above. Some never understand the scam, most strive to themselves trade their position of host to a position of beneficiary. Very few try to reject the abuse. It is no coincidence that every single political ideology, economic system and organized religion are built to transfer from the young to the old.

dealuromanet 3y ago
What you said is unbelievably stupid. Society resulted in science and technology which drastically increased life span and health span for the majority of people who have lived and are living. Society has lifted billions out of poverty and created wonderful opportunities for the average person who would've otherwise been a peasant living a short brutish life unable to learn and enjoy things. We all participate in society, work in society, build society, rest in society, and benefit from society. People who paid their dues doing these things receive retirement at old age because of society. You can find edge cases where society isn't perfect, but none of these edge cases will justify the sweeping claims you made. You threw the baby out with the bathwater big time. You're pretty much advocating for anarchy and chaos. Economic systems and religious systems exist because they are useful abstractions. Sometimes they map onto physical reality and correctly measure and explain the movement of commodities and as a result we get a more connected world and more trade. When the abstractions don't serve us well anymore, they get upgraded to address new complexity. That is why we have economic theory. Sometimes these abstractions map onto human emotions and lived experience across the spectrum of ages to give people hope and to answer the questions science cannot. That is why we have religions. They're all beautiful, they're all abstractions that are useful, and they exist because everyone wants them to. There is no conspiracy by the old to subsume the young.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  You have replaced God with "society" in your mind, and that's why you attack me with religious fervor, forgetting polite behaviour. There is no society and has never existed any society. It is a common myth, designed to organize people and to let some groups benefit at the expense of other groups - and to always let old people benefit at the expense of young people, because old people are not fit to compete. "Paid their dues" is one of those myths, that translates to telling young people that they owe old people something for being born. Which is of course a lie, nobody is born indebted. If "anarchy and chaos" is the option to having your blood sucked, I know what I chose. All human progress is thanks to individuals who have made inventions and discoveries. Since modern man doesn't believe in God, and is too proud to acknowledge the greatness of their fellow man, they instead turn to the fairy-tale myth of a "society" who they say made everything possible, saved the whole mankind from slavery and poverty, and so on. Feel free to do what you think is good for "society". I will do what's good for me and my fellow man.
  - dealuromanet 3y ago
    God made society.