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Is it really fair to blame the software for overheating? Doesn't your motherboard control the fan speeds?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Some users are just clueless and need to vent on something they hate rather than on the thing that's actually causing the issue. If their car doesn't start in the morning it's Window's fault.
- samstave 3y ago
  You missed the part where I have TWO PHYSICALLY IDENTICAL Machines - and YES I control the fans, but W11 turns them on when doing stupid shit like running chrome to watch videos... I can swap the SSDs between the two machines (which I have done, multiple times) - its W11 - not my inability to manage a laptop with a 40 year career in IT..
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    The you must be the unluckiest person ever to have the only documented case of W11 causing overheating. At home and work we all switched to W11 from W10 and no such HW problems occurred over W10. Have you done a clean OS reinstall off official USB ISO? Most likely you have some rogue background process hammering your CPU. I had something similar on a Dell on Win 10 years before. Can't remember what it was.
  - bastardoperator 3y ago
    Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? Windows 11 consumes a standard interface like ACPI/PECI and uses that to collect system data. MSFT does have an article for people complaining about this issue, the accepted answer is updating your bios drivers/firmware.
    - samstave 3y ago
      >Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? To turn them off when they turn on when they shouldnt. I thought that was obv. EDIT : -- but the moboo SHOULD NOT BE GETTING FUCKING SMOKING HOT when browsing FN YOUTUBE (again::: THE SAME FN HARDWARE)
      - bastardoperator 3y ago
        It's far from obvious because the amount of heat generated inside of a laptop is going to require constant airflow. The idle temperature of a CPU is 86 to 104 which is always going to be warm and browsers use significant amount of resources and even more so when they're playing video. There is never a time when your fans should be off, ever. Even liquid cooled CPUs require airflow to dissipate heat.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        The fan sped of your laptop is controlled by the controller on the motherboard which ahs its own firmware, not by windows. Yes your laptops may be the same model, but oine might have different thermal paste application, more dust, etc. Or on your Win11 install you have something messed up that maybe messes with your HW acceleration when watching youtube, who knows, you haven't really provided any valuable diagnostic info other than "my laptop overheats". Have you tried a clean Win install?
        samstave 3y ago
        You must not be aware of the fact that you can adjust fan settings in the nvdia apps?
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
I'm not convinced this is actually a W11 problem, but the OS absolutely can and probably should be involved in controlling fans these days.

Some users are just clueless and need to vent on something they hate rather than on the thing that's actually causing the issue. If their car doesn't start in the morning it's Window's fault.

samstave 3y ago
You missed the part where I have TWO PHYSICALLY IDENTICAL Machines - and YES I control the fans, but W11 turns them on when doing stupid shit like running chrome to watch videos... I can swap the SSDs between the two machines (which I have done, multiple times) - its W11 - not my inability to manage a laptop with a 40 year career in IT..
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  The you must be the unluckiest person ever to have the only documented case of W11 causing overheating. At home and work we all switched to W11 from W10 and no such HW problems occurred over W10. Have you done a clean OS reinstall off official USB ISO? Most likely you have some rogue background process hammering your CPU. I had something similar on a Dell on Win 10 years before. Can't remember what it was.
- bastardoperator 3y ago
  Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? Windows 11 consumes a standard interface like ACPI/PECI and uses that to collect system data. MSFT does have an article for people complaining about this issue, the accepted answer is updating your bios drivers/firmware.
  - samstave 3y ago
    >Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? To turn them off when they turn on when they shouldnt. I thought that was obv. EDIT : -- but the moboo SHOULD NOT BE GETTING FUCKING SMOKING HOT when browsing FN YOUTUBE (again::: THE SAME FN HARDWARE)
    - bastardoperator 3y ago
      It's far from obvious because the amount of heat generated inside of a laptop is going to require constant airflow. The idle temperature of a CPU is 86 to 104 which is always going to be warm and browsers use significant amount of resources and even more so when they're playing video. There is never a time when your fans should be off, ever. Even liquid cooled CPUs require airflow to dissipate heat.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      The fan sped of your laptop is controlled by the controller on the motherboard which ahs its own firmware, not by windows. Yes your laptops may be the same model, but oine might have different thermal paste application, more dust, etc. Or on your Win11 install you have something messed up that maybe messes with your HW acceleration when watching youtube, who knows, you haven't really provided any valuable diagnostic info other than "my laptop overheats". Have you tried a clean Win install?
      - samstave 3y ago
        You must not be aware of the fact that you can adjust fan settings in the nvdia apps?

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

I'm not convinced this is actually a W11 problem, but the OS absolutely can and probably should be involved in controlling fans these days.