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The ivory-tower relativist view may give him a pass, but in the real world this turkey is cooked. And that is total BS that you would compare people with menta

by sheraz 15y ago

The ivory-tower relativist view may give him a pass, but in the real world this turkey is cooked. And that is total BS that you would compare people with mental problems to Jewish people or those born physically disabled. Yes, I twisted your words, but not that much. You could have chosen much better examples.

DanBC 15y ago
Why is it BS to compare someone with a mental illness (specifically a psychotic illness) to someone who is Jewish or someone who is a wheelchair user?
- sheraz 15y ago
  I think you have chosen your words poorly because the above reads like you are calling an entire ethnicity disabled.
  - DanBC 15y ago
    I think you need to read what I wrote again. There are several types of discrimination - race, sex, sexual preference, age, ability, and religion. My point was to compare one type of discrimination -discrimination against those with a disability, a mental illness - with other types of discrimination, either discrimination against those with a different disability - those who use wheelchairs, or discrimination against people of a different ethnicity. Why is it acceptable to say "This person has a mental illness and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect"? Why is that acceptable if it's not acceptable to say "This person is a wheelchair user and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect" or "This person is gay and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect"?
    - sheraz 15y ago
      I didn't want to engage this further, but here I go: Mental disability is too broad a topic to cover in the comments of HN. It covers a range from phobias to anti-social behaviors. And yes -- this man and his work are suspect because immediately following his apparent success he was alleged to be masturbating in public and endangering himself.

by sheraz 15y ago

DanBC 15y ago

Why is it BS to compare someone with a mental illness (specifically a psychotic illness) to someone who is Jewish or someone who is a wheelchair user?

sheraz 15y ago
I think you have chosen your words poorly because the above reads like you are calling an entire ethnicity disabled.
- DanBC 15y ago
  I think you need to read what I wrote again. There are several types of discrimination - race, sex, sexual preference, age, ability, and religion. My point was to compare one type of discrimination -discrimination against those with a disability, a mental illness - with other types of discrimination, either discrimination against those with a different disability - those who use wheelchairs, or discrimination against people of a different ethnicity. Why is it acceptable to say "This person has a mental illness and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect"? Why is that acceptable if it's not acceptable to say "This person is a wheelchair user and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect" or "This person is gay and thus all of their work is suspect and all of the work of their organisation is suspect"?
  - sheraz 15y ago
    I didn't want to engage this further, but here I go: Mental disability is too broad a topic to cover in the comments of HN. It covers a range from phobias to anti-social behaviors. And yes -- this man and his work are suspect because immediately following his apparent success he was alleged to be masturbating in public and endangering himself.