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It would be great if they would bake in some extensions that are "table stakes" for a modern usable browser like uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Total

It would be great if they would bake in some extensions that are "table stakes" for a modern usable browser like uBlock Origin, Multi Account Containers, Total Suspender, and a vertical tabs solution like Sidebury.

dotcoma 3y ago
Ublock Origin is baked-in, as far as I know.
drcongo 3y ago
uBlock is the only one of those I've even heard of.
- ian-g 3y ago
  multi account containers is a Firefox thing. you can silo websites away from each other. for example, your work uses outlook and slack. a work tab has those logins memorized, but it won't know about your Facebook login. you could have a banking tab just for logging in to places like that. I'm a fan
  - trackflak 3y ago
    Brilliant also for your sock puppeting... I mean legit separation of interests
  - drcongo 3y ago
    Thanks, I've never used that but it does sound useful! I tend to use different browsers to context switch as Cmd+Tab is a nice way to switch between them - Safari for actual browsing, Firefox (and developer edition) for dev.
  - pferde 3y ago
    I prefer to use separate docker containers for that, with some trivial shell wrappers to make creating new persistent "browser profiles" easy. But for non-techies, I guess the Firefox addon is the next best thing.
sa1 3y ago
Things like Sidebury affect your window width and hence your fingerprint, Tor Browser is extremely careful with these. You might not be in the market for a privacy focused browser.
- wintermutestwin 3y ago
  My whole point is that vertical tabs should be the damn default on any browser. How many people have a screen that is taller than it is wide? How many people have more than 8 tabs open at once?
  - c_s_guy 3y ago
    There are plenty of use cases so I'm sure it varies. For example, I often have my browser on the left side and my editor on the right. With only 50% of the width, I sometimes prefer to reclaim the horizontal space and switch back to horizontal tabs.
  - arrowsmith 3y ago
    > How many people have more than 8 tabs open at once? Don't most people? I basically always do. And yes, I'm a techie, but anecdotally I see many non-techies with zillions of browser tabs open because they barely notice that tabs are even a feature and so they continually allow new ones to be opened without going back and closing anything.
    - selykg 3y ago
      My colleagues are not techies, at all. Their browser tab situation scares me.
    - wintermutestwin 3y ago
      Of course they don't notice the tabs - once you get over ~8, you'd have to scroll to see them. I can see 40 tabs with 40 characters of tab name in a single window (actually, I pin 3 rows of 8 tabs, which takes up 3 tab spaces, so I can see 24 pinned tabs and 37 full size)
    - 3y ago
ar_lan 3y ago
These are not table stakes features for usability, especially the last one. I use Arc Browser and while I think vertical tabs is nice, this is not a MVP feature. Additionally, I'd argue Multi Account Containers + Total Suspender are not either. Even MAC doesn't come by default w/ Firefox, you still need to install it. I'm willing to bit the vast majority of internet users still don't know about it. And Total Suspender is really a response to RAM use by browsers. It's a great idea, browsers should implement it, but many people still don't know about it and it's not necessarily a deal-breaker.
DavideNL 3y ago
Browsing without some extension like Dark Reader is just painful, does anyone even do that...? I imagine many users will install it.

dotcoma 3y ago

Ublock Origin is baked-in, as far as I know.

drcongo 3y ago

uBlock is the only one of those I've even heard of.

ian-g 3y ago
multi account containers is a Firefox thing. you can silo websites away from each other. for example, your work uses outlook and slack. a work tab has those logins memorized, but it won't know about your Facebook login. you could have a banking tab just for logging in to places like that. I'm a fan
- trackflak 3y ago
  Brilliant also for your sock puppeting... I mean legit separation of interests
- drcongo 3y ago
  Thanks, I've never used that but it does sound useful! I tend to use different browsers to context switch as Cmd+Tab is a nice way to switch between them - Safari for actual browsing, Firefox (and developer edition) for dev.
- pferde 3y ago
  I prefer to use separate docker containers for that, with some trivial shell wrappers to make creating new persistent "browser profiles" easy. But for non-techies, I guess the Firefox addon is the next best thing.

sa1 3y ago

Things like Sidebury affect your window width and hence your fingerprint, Tor Browser is extremely careful with these. You might not be in the market for a privacy focused browser.

wintermutestwin 3y ago
My whole point is that vertical tabs should be the damn default on any browser. How many people have a screen that is taller than it is wide? How many people have more than 8 tabs open at once?
- c_s_guy 3y ago
  There are plenty of use cases so I'm sure it varies. For example, I often have my browser on the left side and my editor on the right. With only 50% of the width, I sometimes prefer to reclaim the horizontal space and switch back to horizontal tabs.
- arrowsmith 3y ago
  > How many people have more than 8 tabs open at once? Don't most people? I basically always do. And yes, I'm a techie, but anecdotally I see many non-techies with zillions of browser tabs open because they barely notice that tabs are even a feature and so they continually allow new ones to be opened without going back and closing anything.
  - selykg 3y ago
    My colleagues are not techies, at all. Their browser tab situation scares me.
  - wintermutestwin 3y ago
    Of course they don't notice the tabs - once you get over ~8, you'd have to scroll to see them. I can see 40 tabs with 40 characters of tab name in a single window (actually, I pin 3 rows of 8 tabs, which takes up 3 tab spaces, so I can see 24 pinned tabs and 37 full size)
  - 3y ago

ar_lan 3y ago

These are not table stakes features for usability, especially the last one. I use Arc Browser and while I think vertical tabs is nice, this is not a MVP feature. Additionally, I'd argue Multi Account Containers + Total Suspender are not either. Even MAC doesn't come by default w/ Firefox, you still need to install it. I'm willing to bit the vast majority of internet users still don't know about it. And Total Suspender is really a response to RAM use by browsers. It's a great idea, browsers should implement it, but many people still don't know about it and it's not necessarily a deal-breaker.

DavideNL 3y ago

Browsing without some extension like Dark Reader is just painful, does anyone even do that...? I imagine many users will install it.