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W11 is absolute garbage. I hate it - I have two identical gaming laptops, one Windows 10& one is 11. The 11 crashes a lot, overheats and then on top of it ms h

W11 is absolute garbage. I hate it - I have two identical gaming laptops, one Windows 10& one is 11. The 11 crashes a lot, overheats and then on top of it ms has integrated ads I to the OS... And tying your login to outlook.com should be illegal :-) The w10 machine never over heats, doesn't crash and doesn't have as much as embedded - but it still ties to outlook.com no bueno

CoastalCoder 3y ago
Why do you keep Windows 11 on that laptop? I'd think that cloning your Windows 10 image would be an improvement.
- comment0r 3y ago
  Windows 10 ist EoL very soon in 2024.
  - trackflak 3y ago
    Laughs in LTSC
  - accrual 3y ago
    Fortunately the 2021 LTSC version EOLs 2027-01-12, so it should still be possible to use Windows 10 beyond 2024 assuming the user is okay with the steps needed to run LTSC.
    - CoastalCoder 3y ago
      It's been a while since I looked into using LTSC. Are the two options basically pirate it or pay huge sums of money?
- samstave 3y ago
  Because I dont currently have enough swap space to switch the data/organize the data to make it easy to clone... I basically have to have a MANY ssd de-dupe capability btwn my machines and apps and various data... This is why I was hoping that an earlier announcement of AI enable desktop search could also auto-categorize organize de-dupe my stuffs... so apathy? Daunting process? Lack of tools? climate change (its too hot to do brain work)?
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colejohnson66 3y ago
What specs do the laptops have? Windows 11 has higher requirements than Windows 10.
- vladvasiliu 3y ago
  Anecdotally, on my not-officially-supported intel 3rd gen core, win11 has been a much snappier and all-around more pleasant experience than Windows 10. I'm not saying it's a great OS or anything, I only use it for games and Adobe stuff. But it almost made me consider using it for other things.
- samstave 3y ago
  Flagship HP Omen Gaming laptop 3060ti' rtx' 5700 cpu
accrual 3y ago
You could try some of the tools to debloat and reduce telemetry in Windows 11, like O&O ShutUp and BloatyNosy. I'm running 11 on unsupported hardware that previously ran 10 fine, and so far no stability or performance issues.
bastardoperator 3y ago
Is it really fair to blame the software for overheating? Doesn't your motherboard control the fan speeds?
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  Some users are just clueless and need to vent on something they hate rather than on the thing that's actually causing the issue. If their car doesn't start in the morning it's Window's fault.
  - samstave 3y ago
    You missed the part where I have TWO PHYSICALLY IDENTICAL Machines - and YES I control the fans, but W11 turns them on when doing stupid shit like running chrome to watch videos... I can swap the SSDs between the two machines (which I have done, multiple times) - its W11 - not my inability to manage a laptop with a 40 year career in IT..
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      The you must be the unluckiest person ever to have the only documented case of W11 causing overheating. At home and work we all switched to W11 from W10 and no such HW problems occurred over W10. Have you done a clean OS reinstall off official USB ISO? Most likely you have some rogue background process hammering your CPU. I had something similar on a Dell on Win 10 years before. Can't remember what it was.
    - bastardoperator 3y ago
      Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? Windows 11 consumes a standard interface like ACPI/PECI and uses that to collect system data. MSFT does have an article for people complaining about this issue, the accepted answer is updating your bios drivers/firmware.
      - samstave 3y ago
SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
I honestly noticed zero day to day changes when I moved my PC from Windows 10 to 11. No less stable, no more performance issues, nothing. Your laptop overheating makes me think it's a lemon.
- BrandoElFollito 3y ago
  Same here, except for new defaults that are infuriating (notably the impossibility to ungroup icons in the taskbar). Otherwise it is the same product for me.
binkHN 3y ago
> ...ms has integrated ads I to the OS... Who would have thunk, ChromeOS, an OS from an advertising company, would have less ads than an OS from Microsoft?

CoastalCoder 3y ago

Why do you keep Windows 11 on that laptop? I'd think that cloning your Windows 10 image would be an improvement.

comment0r 3y ago
Windows 10 ist EoL very soon in 2024.
- trackflak 3y ago
  Laughs in LTSC
- accrual 3y ago
  Fortunately the 2021 LTSC version EOLs 2027-01-12, so it should still be possible to use Windows 10 beyond 2024 assuming the user is okay with the steps needed to run LTSC.
  - CoastalCoder 3y ago
    It's been a while since I looked into using LTSC. Are the two options basically pirate it or pay huge sums of money?
samstave 3y ago
Because I dont currently have enough swap space to switch the data/organize the data to make it easy to clone... I basically have to have a MANY ssd de-dupe capability btwn my machines and apps and various data... This is why I was hoping that an earlier announcement of AI enable desktop search could also auto-categorize organize de-dupe my stuffs... so apathy? Daunting process? Lack of tools? climate change (its too hot to do brain work)?

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colejohnson66 3y ago

What specs do the laptops have? Windows 11 has higher requirements than Windows 10.

vladvasiliu 3y ago
Anecdotally, on my not-officially-supported intel 3rd gen core, win11 has been a much snappier and all-around more pleasant experience than Windows 10. I'm not saying it's a great OS or anything, I only use it for games and Adobe stuff. But it almost made me consider using it for other things.
samstave 3y ago
Flagship HP Omen Gaming laptop 3060ti' rtx' 5700 cpu

accrual 3y ago

You could try some of the tools to debloat and reduce telemetry in Windows 11, like O&O ShutUp and BloatyNosy. I'm running 11 on unsupported hardware that previously ran 10 fine, and so far no stability or performance issues.

bastardoperator 3y ago

Is it really fair to blame the software for overheating? Doesn't your motherboard control the fan speeds?

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
Some users are just clueless and need to vent on something they hate rather than on the thing that's actually causing the issue. If their car doesn't start in the morning it's Window's fault.
- samstave 3y ago
  You missed the part where I have TWO PHYSICALLY IDENTICAL Machines - and YES I control the fans, but W11 turns them on when doing stupid shit like running chrome to watch videos... I can swap the SSDs between the two machines (which I have done, multiple times) - its W11 - not my inability to manage a laptop with a 40 year career in IT..
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    The you must be the unluckiest person ever to have the only documented case of W11 causing overheating. At home and work we all switched to W11 from W10 and no such HW problems occurred over W10. Have you done a clean OS reinstall off official USB ISO? Most likely you have some rogue background process hammering your CPU. I had something similar on a Dell on Win 10 years before. Can't remember what it was.
  - bastardoperator 3y ago
    Why do you control the fans when the motherboard has a built in temperature sensor that will control them for you? Windows 11 consumes a standard interface like ACPI/PECI and uses that to collect system data. MSFT does have an article for people complaining about this issue, the accepted answer is updating your bios drivers/firmware.
    - samstave 3y ago

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago

I honestly noticed zero day to day changes when I moved my PC from Windows 10 to 11. No less stable, no more performance issues, nothing. Your laptop overheating makes me think it's a lemon.

BrandoElFollito 3y ago
Same here, except for new defaults that are infuriating (notably the impossibility to ungroup icons in the taskbar). Otherwise it is the same product for me.

binkHN 3y ago

> ...ms has integrated ads I to the OS... Who would have thunk, ChromeOS, an OS from an advertising company, would have less ads than an OS from Microsoft?