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> even though it's wrong. Well, empirically, we only observe that countries heavily relying on renewable (Denmark and Germany are the poster children) (i) have

by shakow 3y ago

> even though it's wrong. Well, empirically, we only observe that countries heavily relying on renewable (Denmark and Germany are the poster children) (i) have a much worse average CO2/kWh ratio, (ii) still need to import energy when, well, the wind does not blow and the Sun does not shine. But feel free to elaborate on where this is wrong.

pydry 3y ago
https://en.energinet.dk/About-our-news/News/2021/06/22/Danish-electricity-generation-was-greener-than-ever-in-2020/ https://en.energinet.dk/About-our-news/News/2021/06/22/Danis... 117 looks ok to me. They're probably one of the most improved countries in the world in the last 10 years, although overall France's is likely still lower thanks to all their 1970s nuclear power plants - decarbonizing decades before anybody gave a damn about global warming. For reference Poland is at like 650. They use an ungodly amount of coal. Environmentally Poland are an absolute a disaster compared to every country in Europe (even poorer ones), but, they didn't shut down a couple of aging nuclear power plants so they're on the good side of the American nuclear power lobby and get relatively little stick.
- shakow 3y ago
  Poland is (i) a pretty poor country compared to Germany, (ii) does not present itself as the “obviously right way forward”, (iii) didn't close perfectly working nuke plants to please the Grüne, (iv) does not actively lobby with all its might against nuclear power in each and every single EU instance, (v) produces ~5× more electricity than Poland for ~2.7× the population, so they are obviously more impactful. > they're on the good side of the American nuclear power lobby and get relatively little stick. I'm French, I don't care about American nuke power lobby – and frankly, given the pitiful state of electricity CO2/kWh in the US and how much coal is burned, it seems that this lobby must not wield that much influence.
  - pydry 3y ago
    >Poland is does not present itself as the “obviously right way forward”, (iii) didn't close perfectly working nuke plants to please the Grüne Exactly why they haven't enraged the nuclear lobby. The nuclear lobby couldn't give a damn about the environment and neither does their supporters.

by shakow 3y ago

pydry 3y ago

https://en.energinet.dk/About-our-news/News/2021/06/22/Danish-electricity-generation-was-greener-than-ever-in-2020/ https://en.energinet.dk/About-our-news/News/2021/06/22/Danis... 117 looks ok to me. They're probably one of the most improved countries in the world in the last 10 years, although overall France's is likely still lower thanks to all their 1970s nuclear power plants - decarbonizing decades before anybody gave a damn about global warming. For reference Poland is at like 650. They use an ungodly amount of coal. Environmentally Poland are an absolute a disaster compared to every country in Europe (even poorer ones), but, they didn't shut down a couple of aging nuclear power plants so they're on the good side of the American nuclear power lobby and get relatively little stick.

shakow 3y ago
Poland is (i) a pretty poor country compared to Germany, (ii) does not present itself as the “obviously right way forward”, (iii) didn't close perfectly working nuke plants to please the Grüne, (iv) does not actively lobby with all its might against nuclear power in each and every single EU instance, (v) produces ~5× more electricity than Poland for ~2.7× the population, so they are obviously more impactful. > they're on the good side of the American nuclear power lobby and get relatively little stick. I'm French, I don't care about American nuke power lobby – and frankly, given the pitiful state of electricity CO2/kWh in the US and how much coal is burned, it seems that this lobby must not wield that much influence.
- pydry 3y ago
  >Poland is does not present itself as the “obviously right way forward”, (iii) didn't close perfectly working nuke plants to please the Grüne Exactly why they haven't enraged the nuclear lobby. The nuclear lobby couldn't give a damn about the environment and neither does their supporters.