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How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? One disadvantage of globalization is th

How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? One disadvantage of globalization is that you get to see the dumb ideas of all politicians. Somehow, the good ideas don't cumulate the same way...

bachmeier 3y ago
> How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? I don't have an answer to your question, but China seems to be successful with the internet censorship thing.
- ImJamal 3y ago
  China doesn't do their censoring on the browser level though?
- Zuiii 3y ago
  > China seems to be successful with the internet censorship thing. Domestically sure but I see stuff about the Tiananmen Square massacre and even whinny the pooh all the time. I don't even go out of my way to look for it.
shaoonb 3y ago
Presumably they could ban the sites that host these non-compliant browsers (whack-a-mole for sure), and/or make it illegal to have one installed on your computer.
stackedinserter 3y ago
They can ban it from appstore/googleplay, with the provision that it should be banned for ALL countries, or else.
- LocalH 3y ago
  Or else what? What ability would any country have to demand that an app be removed from offer outside of their jurisdiction?
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    It has been seen in the form "if you don't comply then your operation in the country will be considered illegal regardless what you do locally". That carries a different weight depending on the country, e.g. missing out on the market in Greenland isn't going to get you much but not being able to participate in the Chinese market can be a big hit. Movies are a more classic example of this push.
  - stackedinserter 3y ago
    - Or else pay fine - Then pay 10x fine - Then appstore is banned - Then 100x fine - Then your employees in the country are arrested and held as hostages As someone from a country that turned into totalitarian shithole in mere 10 years, that "pfft I don't care they won't enforce it" attitude looks dangerous and shortsighted.
popcorncowboy 3y ago
So easily. Step 1: pass law. Step 2: for infinging projects with > $x stars on $whatever issue C&D under threat of $consequence. If you believe tangling with state-sponsored legal machinery is no big deal, I feel sorry for you.

bachmeier 3y ago

> How do they expect to enforce this? Especially against open-source browsers, or companies without a presence in France? I don't have an answer to your question, but China seems to be successful with the internet censorship thing.

ImJamal 3y ago
China doesn't do their censoring on the browser level though?
Zuiii 3y ago
> China seems to be successful with the internet censorship thing. Domestically sure but I see stuff about the Tiananmen Square massacre and even whinny the pooh all the time. I don't even go out of my way to look for it.

shaoonb 3y ago

Presumably they could ban the sites that host these non-compliant browsers (whack-a-mole for sure), and/or make it illegal to have one installed on your computer.

stackedinserter 3y ago

They can ban it from appstore/googleplay, with the provision that it should be banned for ALL countries, or else.

LocalH 3y ago
Or else what? What ability would any country have to demand that an app be removed from offer outside of their jurisdiction?
- zamadatix 3y ago
  It has been seen in the form "if you don't comply then your operation in the country will be considered illegal regardless what you do locally". That carries a different weight depending on the country, e.g. missing out on the market in Greenland isn't going to get you much but not being able to participate in the Chinese market can be a big hit. Movies are a more classic example of this push.
- stackedinserter 3y ago
  - Or else pay fine - Then pay 10x fine - Then appstore is banned - Then 100x fine - Then your employees in the country are arrested and held as hostages As someone from a country that turned into totalitarian shithole in mere 10 years, that "pfft I don't care they won't enforce it" attitude looks dangerous and shortsighted.

popcorncowboy 3y ago

So easily. Step 1: pass law. Step 2: for infinging projects with > $x stars on $whatever issue C&D under threat of $consequence. If you believe tangling with state-sponsored legal machinery is no big deal, I feel sorry for you.