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I think cannabis should be legal but sold behind the counter with id checks to people over 18, with no advertising and no branding. You should not be allowed to

I think cannabis should be legal but sold behind the counter with id checks to people over 18, with no advertising and no branding. You should not be allowed to smoke in public, only at home. Basically the same as cigarettes in Australia. Legal, cheap, available, but not commercial. Having said that, I’d be surprised if any level of legality happened in Australia in the next ten years. This is an extremely conservative country.

_trackno5 3y ago
On top of that it should have the same rules applied to cigarette branding. Health risks need to be clearly exposed in the packaging
NamTaf 3y ago
Australia is not the example to hold up for ‘cheap’. Cigarette taxes are amongst the highest there of anywhere. I also don’t share your pessimism with legalisation. It’s already tremendously easy to get a medical cannabis prescription, which is a route several of my mates have gone down. Moreover, look at the recent changes for MDMA and psilocybin therapy, in which Australia is a world leader. I instead think the major laggard will be around roadside testing - that’s where Australia’s strict driving whilst intoxicated framework will run up against the fact that current tests will show a positive result far after any effects are gone.
newsclues 3y ago
Weed has been legal in Canada for a few years. I've been smoking for years before that. No problems from smoking a joint in a park and going for a bike ride has never been a problem for me. Should Cannabis be more or less commercial than Alcohol?
lambdaba 3y ago
> You should not be allowed to smoke in public, only at home. Why?
- oslem 3y ago
  To be honest, I don’t hate the smell but it is very pungent and dominates. Having been in several cities where marijuana is legalized, you can often only smell there smoke rather than getting to enjoy the smells of restaurants, food stands, and even just fresh laundry.
  - Fluorescence 3y ago
    People smoking at home can be a lot more disruptive. I would get woken up at night because of the extreme pungency of my neighbour's weed. It can catch on the nose in a physical way beyond simply being smelly... although coming home to my house smelling of weedy cat urine was kind of miserable too. Given the choice, I say anyone smoking it should have to sit in a grow tent with air scrubbers otherwise stick to edibles.
    - coffeebeqn 3y ago
      Legalization gives people non-smelly options. Edibles, concentrates, vapes all have no or very subtle smell. It’s really the burning plant matter that causes the smell
      - gallexme 3y ago
        In the context of Germany, I don't think they decriminalize anything but buds and smoking /vaporization. edible,concentrates, extract vapes, drinks .... All likely gonna stay in a very weird spot legal wise
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      Time to patent (and lobby to mandate) bongs with a 1m³ air filtration system attached to them. Who's in?
  - saiya-jin 3y ago
    This can be countered in many ways, and I presume you realize that 'home' is ventilated into exactly same open air as everything else, basically nobody has carbon filters that would make the smell actually disappear. THC oil vapes don't have any typical smell, at least not the ones I've tried. They are superior to smoking plants in many ways, be it health effects, strength of effect or cost. You can have edibles (I don't like how they take very long to manifest but for medicinal use they should be better by principle). I am not against ban in public per se, but lets be consistent - cigarettes, cigars etc should be handled exactly same, with same punishments.
rabbits_2002 3y ago
Cigarettes are not cheap in Australia and they are on the road to making then illegal. That is a horrible example.

_trackno5 3y ago

On top of that it should have the same rules applied to cigarette branding. Health risks need to be clearly exposed in the packaging

NamTaf 3y ago

Australia is not the example to hold up for ‘cheap’. Cigarette taxes are amongst the highest there of anywhere. I also don’t share your pessimism with legalisation. It’s already tremendously easy to get a medical cannabis prescription, which is a route several of my mates have gone down. Moreover, look at the recent changes for MDMA and psilocybin therapy, in which Australia is a world leader. I instead think the major laggard will be around roadside testing - that’s where Australia’s strict driving whilst intoxicated framework will run up against the fact that current tests will show a positive result far after any effects are gone.

newsclues 3y ago

Weed has been legal in Canada for a few years. I've been smoking for years before that. No problems from smoking a joint in a park and going for a bike ride has never been a problem for me. Should Cannabis be more or less commercial than Alcohol?

lambdaba 3y ago

> You should not be allowed to smoke in public, only at home. Why?

oslem 3y ago
To be honest, I don’t hate the smell but it is very pungent and dominates. Having been in several cities where marijuana is legalized, you can often only smell there smoke rather than getting to enjoy the smells of restaurants, food stands, and even just fresh laundry.
- Fluorescence 3y ago
  People smoking at home can be a lot more disruptive. I would get woken up at night because of the extreme pungency of my neighbour's weed. It can catch on the nose in a physical way beyond simply being smelly... although coming home to my house smelling of weedy cat urine was kind of miserable too. Given the choice, I say anyone smoking it should have to sit in a grow tent with air scrubbers otherwise stick to edibles.
  - coffeebeqn 3y ago
    Legalization gives people non-smelly options. Edibles, concentrates, vapes all have no or very subtle smell. It’s really the burning plant matter that causes the smell
    - gallexme 3y ago
      In the context of Germany, I don't think they decriminalize anything but buds and smoking /vaporization. edible,concentrates, extract vapes, drinks .... All likely gonna stay in a very weird spot legal wise
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    Time to patent (and lobby to mandate) bongs with a 1m³ air filtration system attached to them. Who's in?
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  This can be countered in many ways, and I presume you realize that 'home' is ventilated into exactly same open air as everything else, basically nobody has carbon filters that would make the smell actually disappear. THC oil vapes don't have any typical smell, at least not the ones I've tried. They are superior to smoking plants in many ways, be it health effects, strength of effect or cost. You can have edibles (I don't like how they take very long to manifest but for medicinal use they should be better by principle). I am not against ban in public per se, but lets be consistent - cigarettes, cigars etc should be handled exactly same, with same punishments.

rabbits_2002 3y ago

Cigarettes are not cheap in Australia and they are on the road to making then illegal. That is a horrible example.