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> arguing about it publicly isn't going to change much Okay fair enough. What is going to change much?
by paulddraper 3y ago
> arguing about it publicly isn't going to change much
Okay fair enough. What is going to change much?
- stronglikedan 3y agoThe only answer is, likely nothing. There's likely nothing you or anyone else can do to get the governments of those countries to change anything about the way they govern. It's not a tree worth barking up.
- rvnx 3y agoWell, there is a solution, but it's unpopular, so it may negatively impact company valuation. Lobbying government of US, to send them "democracy". Or hire PMCs (Alphabet has 113B USD in cash). Or push news and content that is against the local government (but this is half-joke). So it's possible if you really want.
- graypegg 3y agoI guess on the other side of the argument: why does a game developer in one country feel obliged to change the content standard set by another country? It’s a pretty minor variance all things considered. Maybe you just can’t “change much” here? (Also: I don’t agree with the obviously silly content rules.)
- cmdli 3y agoProbably changing the laws in those countries, which only the citizens of those countries can really do. Google isn't the cause here, just the middleman.
- TulliusCicero 3y agoAnd in many cases, they can't either, if the country isn't democratic.
- mcpackieh 3y agoEven if those countries were democratic, is there any reason to think they would choose to legalize simulated gambling?
- TulliusCicero 3y agoI looked at the list more closely and lol, what is South Korea doing on there? Yeah, I could see South Korea legalizing it. The others...unlikely, to be sure. But you never know, I guess.
- 93po 3y agoSK has a lot of restrictions on gaming in general and it might be for non-gambling simulation reasons
- sneak 3y agoThis, I believe, is called the "just following orders defense". It was attempted most famously in Nürnberg in '46. It didn't work then, and it shouldn't work now. See also: Project Dragonfly
- graypegg 3y agoPlease remember the context here, we’re talking about a game on the App Store that has a slot machine mechanic. Many places have similar small variances in obscenity they allow to be published. Your country might forbid nudity on TV, or disallow gambling businesses in public spaces. I’d say WW2 featured significantly more serious issues.
- sneak 3y agoWe're talking about mass censorship of artistic output for which there is widespread international consensus (basically all of the global west) around being both harmless and protected. The app in question very clearly does not allow gambling! The fact that the app depicts a slot machine is a red herring. Such censorship is being carried out against millions of humans, by one of the few organizations on the planet large enough and resourced enough to take principled stands against same. Google actually left China for this reason specifically. The correct answer by the same organization in question is not without precedent. This is not a small transgression on Google's part.
- graypegg 3y agoYeah I’m sorry, even as a person living in the western world, I would not want to live in a world with a defined “morally correct” group of decision makers. Countries vary. Cultures vary. It really is OK. You can make the argument that big tech is already that, but clearly they respect local laws. You were comparing this to the Nuremberg trials. That’s mostly where my disagreement lies. Beyond over-exaggerated.
- verve_rat 3y agoReally? Country X doesn't like simulated gambling mechanics, Google won't release game in country X therefore Google are Nazis committing war crimes?
- tomjen3 3y agoAnti trust law suit and PR campaign against Google. Problem is that it likely cost way more than he can afford. Anything else effective is illegal.