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I think it's sort of assumed that most large companies in China, if not totally controlled by the government, are at least heavily involved with it. So even if

I think it's sort of assumed that most large companies in China, if not totally controlled by the government, are at least heavily involved with it. So even if Meta or Google are collecting info, it's not for the Chinese government (and being US based, the US Government has a bit more say in what they do.)

ok123456 3y ago
People raise the same objection about American tech companies given the open door relationship that seems to be between going from the intelligence community to being in a position of power in those companies. Should every other country ban American tech?
- RandallBrown 3y ago
  It depends on how much you view the government as a "bad guy". Being an American, I would say other countries have less to worry about than with the Chinese government. Of course I don't really know and have no strong opinion about places banning TikTok. In general I think it's a pretty silly policy.
- nonameiguess 3y ago
  Sure, but this is a question about an American government banning services. Clearly, American governments are not concerned that they might be leaking data to their own intelligence services. They're doing that on purpose. There is nothing out of the ordinary about a government banning foreign espionage even though they carry out their own espionage. That is basic statecraft, not really the gotcha some people on Hacker News seem to think it is.
  - ok123456 3y ago
    Except there's no credible espionage from china through TikTok, but Twitter was used to destabilize middle-eastern governments which lead to a refugee crisis in Europe.
- goodbyesf 3y ago
  > Should every other country ban American tech? Every american tech? No. Every american social media, yes. Especially the major countries. Why india hasn't banned foreign social media is beyond me. What's the point of banning tiktok but not facebook, twitter, etc?

ok123456 3y ago

People raise the same objection about American tech companies given the open door relationship that seems to be between going from the intelligence community to being in a position of power in those companies. Should every other country ban American tech?

RandallBrown 3y ago
It depends on how much you view the government as a "bad guy". Being an American, I would say other countries have less to worry about than with the Chinese government. Of course I don't really know and have no strong opinion about places banning TikTok. In general I think it's a pretty silly policy.
nonameiguess 3y ago
Sure, but this is a question about an American government banning services. Clearly, American governments are not concerned that they might be leaking data to their own intelligence services. They're doing that on purpose. There is nothing out of the ordinary about a government banning foreign espionage even though they carry out their own espionage. That is basic statecraft, not really the gotcha some people on Hacker News seem to think it is.
- ok123456 3y ago
  Except there's no credible espionage from china through TikTok, but Twitter was used to destabilize middle-eastern governments which lead to a refugee crisis in Europe.
goodbyesf 3y ago
> Should every other country ban American tech? Every american tech? No. Every american social media, yes. Especially the major countries. Why india hasn't banned foreign social media is beyond me. What's the point of banning tiktok but not facebook, twitter, etc?