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Not sure why would this be an unpopular advice. I think it's a good advice. I tried this before, but the problem is, the reason many people/businesses have shi

Not sure why would this be an unpopular advice. I think it's a good advice. I tried this before, but the problem is, the reason many people/businesses have shitty websites is that they are not willing to spend money on it. I approached a few local shops (e.g. a comic book store) to create a cool website for them for a few hundred bucks, but they wanted it for free. If I would be a junior developer looking for stuff to my portfolio, sure. But I'm not, and not willing to work for free for anybody. However, I might have given up too easily. I think I'll give this another shot

amerkhalid 3y ago
> to create a cool website for them for a few hundred bucks I think this price range will push away serious businesses. I knew a consulting company that had hard time getting customers when they were charging under $1000 for simple WordPress sites. They had better luck when they raised their prices to $5000. It was 10 years ago for simple WordPress sites.
- ferennag 3y ago
  That is interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess it makes sense, if they think I am cheap they might also think I produce low quality.
  - bruce511 3y ago
    Oh, they -know- you produce low quality. Either you are spending no time on it, or you value your time very little (and if -you- value the time so little, imagine how weak your skills must be.) Providing a cheap service yo a business -requires- that you deliver a cheap product. A much better approach us to do the website for free, but get paid commission on its value. Take a tiny piece of online sales, run specials on the site and measure foot-traffic in the store and so on. People get paid to -add value-. To get easy money you need to figure out what the customer values (for a shop it's usually sales) then figure out how to increase those sales, then take the risk, and actions, to accomplish that.

amerkhalid 3y ago

> to create a cool website for them for a few hundred bucks I think this price range will push away serious businesses. I knew a consulting company that had hard time getting customers when they were charging under $1000 for simple WordPress sites. They had better luck when they raised their prices to $5000. It was 10 years ago for simple WordPress sites.

ferennag 3y ago
That is interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess it makes sense, if they think I am cheap they might also think I produce low quality.
- bruce511 3y ago
  Oh, they -know- you produce low quality. Either you are spending no time on it, or you value your time very little (and if -you- value the time so little, imagine how weak your skills must be.) Providing a cheap service yo a business -requires- that you deliver a cheap product. A much better approach us to do the website for free, but get paid commission on its value. Take a tiny piece of online sales, run specials on the site and measure foot-traffic in the store and so on. People get paid to -add value-. To get easy money you need to figure out what the customer values (for a shop it's usually sales) then figure out how to increase those sales, then take the risk, and actions, to accomplish that.