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`> Please illuminate me: what have I said that has been debunked? The fact that they invaded Georgia, during Xi's Olympics no less and did it again in Ukraine
by Melting_Harps 3y ago
`> Please illuminate me: what have I said that has been debunked?
The fact that they invaded Georgia, during Xi's Olympics no less and did it again in Ukraine during the Winter Olympics, after the West capitulated and the 'separatist' argument was used to justify this abomination [0].
The same was done in '14, and then in '22 to justify it's illegal annexations and war; nothing Russia has done in good faith and their pretext for war is something akin to 17th Century 'well I want it' decree from a monarch, which is what Putin has made himself to be in Russia looting from it's people and then killing them in senseless wars.
People seem to forget that a lot of Ukrainians are actually part Russian, and it's not only the Russian speaking parts either (though now no one will will speak it after this atrocity) which is what makes this genocidal mess even more absurd.
Your Pravda speaking points are like that of the Russian propaganda you'd see on TV that make Russia seem like the victim, when in fact the West was completely fine with Ukraine sliding into insolvency fighting Russia on the East while the EU got cheap gas/oil. It's really messed up, but Purin's inept geopolitical blunder is what made the West unify and finally step up and commit to actually doing something after neglecting the Budapest memorandum.
I cannot say for sure why you are doing this, but it's clear you are either exposed or entirely believe this BS propaganda; this senseless war ends tonight if Russia leaves Ukraine.
They won't, they are far too deep and want the Donbas even if they leave it a smouldering heap like Bauchmut; but if it's true that Wagner troops are returning back to Russia from Belarus after the Kremlin stiffed them on their pay they likely have another coup in their midst, and this is in addition to troops being sent to the front line with no training or equipment pay etc... That is more likely to end the war in my view, it just leaves a horrible power vacum not unlike that of Gadahffi's Libya, or Hussein's Iraq and always leads to chaos.
Honestly, this will be seen by posterity as a 'how to f-up your natural resource rich Nation' 101 by Vladamir Putin; it should be mandatory reading and taught in all schools because this kind of BS shouldn't be tolerated in the 21st Century. It's sad Russians are so easily placated by propaganda into utter apathy--the calls from these people's relatives held as POW is spine chilling, the jaded side of me lets me think it is so bleak that it makes dying in a pointless war almost sensible alternative from their lives in Russia from their perspective.
0: https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/d/echr/HUDOC_38263_08_Annexes_ENG https://www.echr.coe.int/documents/d/echr/HUDOC_38263_08_Ann...