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What does Canada offer me as an American professional? In particular I enjoy living in my state with no sales/income tax and no restrictions on my gun hobby. Ma

What does Canada offer me as an American professional? In particular I enjoy living in my state with no sales/income tax and no restrictions on my gun hobby. Many of my generation would move to Canada solely as a political performance though I suppose.

rebeccaskinner 3y ago
You can enjoy your gun hobby. A lot of other people prefer their “ability to legally receive health care” and “not being targeted by the state for their identity” hobbies, and while imperfect Canada is certainly better than a lot of the US in that regard. People wanting to protect themselves isn’t political performance.
- jimmaswell 3y ago
  Health care is a serious issue, but not relevant to the well-paid software engineers in question. Not every state is Florida. Nobody in the government is targeting me for my identity here.
  - rebeccaskinner 3y ago
    You are right, but a lot of states are like Florida for things like reproductive health care and LGBT rights. If someone is going to uproot their entire life to move someplace that is safer (and will almost certainly have a higher cost of living) it's not unreasonable that they choose another country. I'm not saying it's the only reasonable choice, just that there's a lot more to the rationale than political performance. Real people are having to make real decisions because of actual impacts to their lives. I think it's important to remind people of that.
- busterarm 3y ago
  When I was living in Canada, my ex's family drove to the US for nearly 100% of medical screenings and 100% of dental work because waiting 6 months for an MRI or root canal when you're in debilitating pain is totally unreasonable. It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". The US might have high standard costs but at least you have the option to pay for better than standard.
  - bawolff 3y ago
    Waiting 6 months for a root canal sounds made up. While canada has some issues with wait times for some medical procedures, i have never in my life heard of a 6 month wait for a root canal. > It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". Canada doesn't have that. That is based on a quote from some fired vetren affairs employee.
    - busterarm 3y ago
      https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867 https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c63... > But human rights advocates say the country’s regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it. > Equally troubling, advocates say, are instances in which people have sought to be killed because they weren’t getting adequate government support to live. > Euthanasia “cannot be a default for Canada’s failure to fulfill its human rights obligations,” said Marie-Claude Landry, the head of its Human Rights Commission. > Landry said she shares the “grave concern” voiced last year by three U.N. human rights experts, who wrote that Canada’s euthanasia law appeared to violate the agency’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights. They said the law had a “discriminatory impact” on disabled people and was inconsistent with Canada’s obligations to uphold international human rights standards. > Tim Stainton, director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship at the University of British Columbia, described Canada’s law as “probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s.”
      - loa_in_ 3y ago
        Both points are: going to happen at least once every so often no matter the system; and make good headlines due to the controversy and being unprovable (or undisprovable) by their nature.
  - rebeccaskinner 3y ago
    > It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". This is a huge problem, and it's one of the reasons that I say Canada is definitely not a perfect solution. I agree with you here. > The US might have high standard costs but at least you have the option to pay for better than standard. For a lot of people this is becoming less true over time, depending on where you live. Today there are states where no amount of money can buy you a (legal) abortion, and states where no amount of money can get your child gender affirming care. Tomorrow traveling for that care might be a felony too. It seems reasonable that if someone is in a position to move to Canada, they are probably in a position to move to California, New York, or some other safer state, but I understand why people might opt to leave the US altogether.
jejeyyy77 3y ago
These rules are targeted towards H1B visa holders in the US. Basically, if you are on an H1B (including if about to expire) you can immigrate to Canada (and bring your family) w/ no job offer needed. The fact that you can sponsor your family (parents, etc) is huge.
- esalman 3y ago
  This is the correct answer, and it does not concern American nationals a whole lot, unless they anticipate potential shortage of tech workers.
  - jejeyyy77 3y ago
    H1B workers are probably some of the highest quality immigrants you can get in terms of education/earning power, etc.
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bawolff 3y ago
As a canadian. I enjoy having people's gun hobbies restricted. To each their own. Canada makes mildly different choices than the usa. If you like them great. If you don't, that is cool too, but maybe you shouldn't move here. There is nothing wrong with that, different people like different things.
a-priori 3y ago
You can still own many kinds of guns here in Canada, and roughly 5% of Canadians do. There's certainly more requirements and limitations placed on you than you may be used to, put in place to ensure everyone else's right to safety isn't infringed upon. It's okay if you're not willing to abide by such restrictions, either by following them or by giving up your guns. That's totally your choice. It just means our country is not compatible with your chosen lifestyle.

rebeccaskinner 3y ago

You can enjoy your gun hobby. A lot of other people prefer their “ability to legally receive health care” and “not being targeted by the state for their identity” hobbies, and while imperfect Canada is certainly better than a lot of the US in that regard. People wanting to protect themselves isn’t political performance.

jimmaswell 3y ago
Health care is a serious issue, but not relevant to the well-paid software engineers in question. Not every state is Florida. Nobody in the government is targeting me for my identity here.
- rebeccaskinner 3y ago
  You are right, but a lot of states are like Florida for things like reproductive health care and LGBT rights. If someone is going to uproot their entire life to move someplace that is safer (and will almost certainly have a higher cost of living) it's not unreasonable that they choose another country. I'm not saying it's the only reasonable choice, just that there's a lot more to the rationale than political performance. Real people are having to make real decisions because of actual impacts to their lives. I think it's important to remind people of that.
busterarm 3y ago
When I was living in Canada, my ex's family drove to the US for nearly 100% of medical screenings and 100% of dental work because waiting 6 months for an MRI or root canal when you're in debilitating pain is totally unreasonable. It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". The US might have high standard costs but at least you have the option to pay for better than standard.
- bawolff 3y ago
  Waiting 6 months for a root canal sounds made up. While canada has some issues with wait times for some medical procedures, i have never in my life heard of a 6 month wait for a root canal. > It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". Canada doesn't have that. That is based on a quote from some fired vetren affairs employee.
  - busterarm 3y ago
    https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c631558a457188d2bd2b5cfd360a867 https://apnews.com/article/covid-science-health-toronto-7c63... > But human rights advocates say the country’s regulations lack necessary safeguards, devalue the lives of disabled people and are prompting doctors and health workers to suggest the procedure to those who might not otherwise consider it. > Equally troubling, advocates say, are instances in which people have sought to be killed because they weren’t getting adequate government support to live. > Euthanasia “cannot be a default for Canada’s failure to fulfill its human rights obligations,” said Marie-Claude Landry, the head of its Human Rights Commission. > Landry said she shares the “grave concern” voiced last year by three U.N. human rights experts, who wrote that Canada’s euthanasia law appeared to violate the agency’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights. They said the law had a “discriminatory impact” on disabled people and was inconsistent with Canada’s obligations to uphold international human rights standards. > Tim Stainton, director of the Canadian Institute for Inclusion and Citizenship at the University of British Columbia, described Canada’s law as “probably the biggest existential threat to disabled people since the Nazis’ program in Germany in the 1930s.”
    - loa_in_ 3y ago
      Both points are: going to happen at least once every so often no matter the system; and make good headlines due to the controversy and being unprovable (or undisprovable) by their nature.
- rebeccaskinner 3y ago
  > It's better now, but now Canada also has shit like: "tired of waiting? try assisted suicide". This is a huge problem, and it's one of the reasons that I say Canada is definitely not a perfect solution. I agree with you here. > The US might have high standard costs but at least you have the option to pay for better than standard. For a lot of people this is becoming less true over time, depending on where you live. Today there are states where no amount of money can buy you a (legal) abortion, and states where no amount of money can get your child gender affirming care. Tomorrow traveling for that care might be a felony too. It seems reasonable that if someone is in a position to move to Canada, they are probably in a position to move to California, New York, or some other safer state, but I understand why people might opt to leave the US altogether.

jejeyyy77 3y ago

These rules are targeted towards H1B visa holders in the US. Basically, if you are on an H1B (including if about to expire) you can immigrate to Canada (and bring your family) w/ no job offer needed. The fact that you can sponsor your family (parents, etc) is huge.

esalman 3y ago
This is the correct answer, and it does not concern American nationals a whole lot, unless they anticipate potential shortage of tech workers.
- jejeyyy77 3y ago
  H1B workers are probably some of the highest quality immigrants you can get in terms of education/earning power, etc.

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bawolff 3y ago

As a canadian. I enjoy having people's gun hobbies restricted. To each their own. Canada makes mildly different choices than the usa. If you like them great. If you don't, that is cool too, but maybe you shouldn't move here. There is nothing wrong with that, different people like different things.

a-priori 3y ago

You can still own many kinds of guns here in Canada, and roughly 5% of Canadians do. There's certainly more requirements and limitations placed on you than you may be used to, put in place to ensure everyone else's right to safety isn't infringed upon. It's okay if you're not willing to abide by such restrictions, either by following them or by giving up your guns. That's totally your choice. It just means our country is not compatible with your chosen lifestyle.