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Great games, maybe. Repetitive use of same IP over 30+ years, 100%. Its like Fast N Furious or other movie franchises that just publish a slightly different ver

Great games, maybe. Repetitive use of same IP over 30+ years, 100%. Its like Fast N Furious or other movie franchises that just publish a slightly different version on some cadence. If you really like it, then yes those would be great games for you. I recently fired up the original NES Zelda game and it was fun. I also got a switch and BoTW and the original is more fun. There is so much filler and repetitive game mechanics that don't add to the game at all in BoTW. Game companies keep adding stuff to lengthen game play loops and this ends up in tedious, repetitive gaming sessions which after some point I don't find enjoyable. Its art though so to each their own and in my opinion you shouldn't be allowed to patent art.

larrik 3y ago
I disagree with everything you said, lol. Besides the original NEW Zelda being fun. Nintendo is very sparing in how often they make mainline games in their IP (besides Pokemon). Mario has had one main 3d game in a decade. Zelda had 6 years between BoTW and ToTK, and 5 years between BoTW and it's predecessor. Everyone of those (Mario and Zelda) until ToTK was completely different, with a different feel and different mechanics.
- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  I think a lot of what makes the games special is the level of polish vs other studios. Polish takes a lot of time, which is why most studios don’t do it to the degree Nintendo seems to.
  - larrik 3y ago
    I think that helps a ton, but they also focus obssessively on gameplay. Story, graphics, cinematics, etc. take a backseat. Multiplayer rarely exists at all.
- larrik 3y ago
  too late to edit, but I meant "NES" Zelda, not "NEW" Zelda
PsylentKnight 3y ago
You say the games don't change significantly, then you say the games have changed in a way you don't like. Yes, they use the same IP's for decades but they remain relevant because they do new things with those IP's. BoTW completely bucked the Zelda formula. ToTK was so successful because they didn't try to just ride off the success of its predecessor - they did a lot of new stuff. A far better comparison to Fast N Furious would be Madden.
- mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
  I get tired of the same story being repeated, maybe I could have worded it better - thats the part that they just recycle all the time. Yeah they aren’t releasing new games on a yearly basis but when they do its the same characters and nearly the same story lines. BoTW is about rescuing the princess, so is the orig Zelda. Yes there are different mini-boss fights, puzzles, etc. and they can be fun but its certainly not a new original story. I like how with Batman and Joker movies different directors/actors have a different take on the characters or setting (gritty vs campy humor, etc.) and I don’t mind similar story elements being re-used. I don’t like that in most video games for some reason. Horizon Zero Dawn was awesome, same with Last of Us (game), haven’t looked at a sequels, they look like more of the same. Its okay for me to not like that in this art form and its okay for you (or others) to like it.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    >I get tired of the same story being repeated, But "Link, the hero of time saves Zelda from Ganon, the great evil" is the whole point of the story in the Zelda games, that these three fates are intertwined for eternity and meant to constantly dance their dance. >I like how with Batman and Joker movies different directors/actors have a different take on the characters or setting Zelda does this massively, there's multiple interpretations of these characters because they are different living beings in the same lineage or whatever. Consider the toon games, where "Zelda" is a pirate girl with zero "Royal" character attributes. I don't know what you are expecting or asking for. Hell, BoTW is ALSO another re-interpretation of the story and characters
ninedays 3y ago
Couldn't disagree more with the first 2 paragraphs. It feels like saying Apple publishes a slightly different version of its iPhone every year. I think you will find plenty of differences - even major ones between the first iPhone and the latest one. Same thing with Nintendo games. IMHO, Nintendo is probably the best developer in the world and have proven this again and again. Completely agree with your last paragraph though.
- circuit10 3y ago
  Honestly iPhones aren’t changing much any more, at least in a way that matters to most people
m3kw9 3y ago
Every fps is just new graphics and few mechanic changes, no more different than sequels, at least Nintendo does it better than anyone
_gabe_ 3y ago
> Repetitive use of same IP over 30+ years, 100%. Its like Fast N Furious or other movie franchises that just publish a slightly different version on some cadence. Go play the original Super Mario Bros, then Mario N64, then Mario Sunshine, then Paper Mario (wii edition), then Super Mario Galaxy, then Super Mario Odyssey. Sure all those games have Mario in it, but they’re only the same in the sense that the Mandalorian takes place in the same galaxy as Star Wars Ep 4. I would never compare this franchise (or Zelda) with Fast and Furious or even something like CoD. And I don’t know how you can call the IP repetitive when the only constant in all the games I listed is Mario. It’s not like FIFA that updates every year with a new roster and the exact same game. The reason I love playing these game is because they do innovate and create completely new games even if it’s the same franchise.

larrik 3y ago

I disagree with everything you said, lol. Besides the original NEW Zelda being fun. Nintendo is very sparing in how often they make mainline games in their IP (besides Pokemon). Mario has had one main 3d game in a decade. Zelda had 6 years between BoTW and ToTK, and 5 years between BoTW and it's predecessor. Everyone of those (Mario and Zelda) until ToTK was completely different, with a different feel and different mechanics.

pfannkuchen 3y ago
I think a lot of what makes the games special is the level of polish vs other studios. Polish takes a lot of time, which is why most studios don’t do it to the degree Nintendo seems to.
- larrik 3y ago
  I think that helps a ton, but they also focus obssessively on gameplay. Story, graphics, cinematics, etc. take a backseat. Multiplayer rarely exists at all.
larrik 3y ago
too late to edit, but I meant "NES" Zelda, not "NEW" Zelda

PsylentKnight 3y ago

You say the games don't change significantly, then you say the games have changed in a way you don't like. Yes, they use the same IP's for decades but they remain relevant because they do new things with those IP's. BoTW completely bucked the Zelda formula. ToTK was so successful because they didn't try to just ride off the success of its predecessor - they did a lot of new stuff. A far better comparison to Fast N Furious would be Madden.

mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
I get tired of the same story being repeated, maybe I could have worded it better - thats the part that they just recycle all the time. Yeah they aren’t releasing new games on a yearly basis but when they do its the same characters and nearly the same story lines. BoTW is about rescuing the princess, so is the orig Zelda. Yes there are different mini-boss fights, puzzles, etc. and they can be fun but its certainly not a new original story. I like how with Batman and Joker movies different directors/actors have a different take on the characters or setting (gritty vs campy humor, etc.) and I don’t mind similar story elements being re-used. I don’t like that in most video games for some reason. Horizon Zero Dawn was awesome, same with Last of Us (game), haven’t looked at a sequels, they look like more of the same. Its okay for me to not like that in this art form and its okay for you (or others) to like it.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  >I get tired of the same story being repeated, But "Link, the hero of time saves Zelda from Ganon, the great evil" is the whole point of the story in the Zelda games, that these three fates are intertwined for eternity and meant to constantly dance their dance. >I like how with Batman and Joker movies different directors/actors have a different take on the characters or setting Zelda does this massively, there's multiple interpretations of these characters because they are different living beings in the same lineage or whatever. Consider the toon games, where "Zelda" is a pirate girl with zero "Royal" character attributes. I don't know what you are expecting or asking for. Hell, BoTW is ALSO another re-interpretation of the story and characters

ninedays 3y ago

Couldn't disagree more with the first 2 paragraphs. It feels like saying Apple publishes a slightly different version of its iPhone every year. I think you will find plenty of differences - even major ones between the first iPhone and the latest one. Same thing with Nintendo games. IMHO, Nintendo is probably the best developer in the world and have proven this again and again. Completely agree with your last paragraph though.

circuit10 3y ago
Honestly iPhones aren’t changing much any more, at least in a way that matters to most people

m3kw9 3y ago

Every fps is just new graphics and few mechanic changes, no more different than sequels, at least Nintendo does it better than anyone

_gabe_ 3y ago

> Repetitive use of same IP over 30+ years, 100%. Its like Fast N Furious or other movie franchises that just publish a slightly different version on some cadence. Go play the original Super Mario Bros, then Mario N64, then Mario Sunshine, then Paper Mario (wii edition), then Super Mario Galaxy, then Super Mario Odyssey. Sure all those games have Mario in it, but they’re only the same in the sense that the Mandalorian takes place in the same galaxy as Star Wars Ep 4. I would never compare this franchise (or Zelda) with Fast and Furious or even something like CoD. And I don’t know how you can call the IP repetitive when the only constant in all the games I listed is Mario. It’s not like FIFA that updates every year with a new roster and the exact same game. The reason I love playing these game is because they do innovate and create completely new games even if it’s the same franchise.