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Unintentional collateral death in the pursuit of preventing much bigger tragedies is in no way comparable to an intentional conquest and indiscriminate bombing

by vxNsr 3y ago

Unintentional collateral death in the pursuit of preventing much bigger tragedies is in no way comparable to an intentional conquest and indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets. Not to mention the direct molestations and mutilations that the author has extensively documented. And of course the many attempted cover ups (culminating in the attempted assassination). The moral equivocating is absolutely despicable. Has the US killed children? yes! Was that ever the stated or unstated goal? Never.

kunley 3y ago
Thank you for this comment. I would add, contrary to that, physical eradication of certain parts of society has been and is the goal of Russian rulers. (Ukrainian hunger, Ukrainian dams in 1930s - the purge of Ukrainians didn't start February last year)
Aerbil313 3y ago
In the pursuit of preventing much bigger tragedies? I can't speak of my anger rn. The IS is found and fed by America. They indiscriminately kill muslims and non-muslims, they don't behave like muslims at all and for some reason (?) they never touch Israel. All so that you can tell a hecking lie to come and murder our kids and rape our wives, and plunder whatever resources in our hands! To afterwards award the man who destroyed seven countries with a Nobel! I'm once again reminded that there is no modernity, it's medieval age all the way down, all the kings of west war for nothing but their power! We muslims are in no way inclined to harm you, GTFO of our countries!
- lobocinza 3y ago
  They behave like Muslims historically did.
  - Aerbil313 3y ago
    No. Muslims did jihad, not terrorism. See the difference directly in a meme from the eyes of a leading Muslim news platform: https://muslimskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/photo_3_2023-08-09_12-14-39.jpg https://muslimskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/photo_3... In addition to that, it's strictly forbidden to plunder or steal, or harm women, children and elderly in the Islamic jihad. Pretty high standards the USA cannot and would not even dream of achieving. Snowden revelations come to mind.
    - lobocinza 3y ago
      Ideals were not always followed in practice. Early Christians were pacifists.
spopejoy 3y ago
The slavish apologizing is absolutely risible :) The US regime has (a) committed repeated genocides including children against Native Americans and black slaves (b) perpetuated the Jim Crow laws including terror, bombings and lynchings against the black population up through the 60s (c) invaded or directly supported lethal coups, dictators and genocides in Guatemala, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Indonesia (d) overthrown governments and participated in assassination plots in South Vietnam, Congo, Iran (e) supported Saudi Arabia in their shameful war in Yemen. An incomplete list to be sure. It's not that this is worse or better than [some other nation]. It's just that it's bad and pretending that the regime "meant well" is indefensible.
mistermann 3y ago
Westerners are also experts in using language like an expert musician can play an instrument, always impressive to watch.

by vxNsr 3y ago

kunley 3y ago

Thank you for this comment. I would add, contrary to that, physical eradication of certain parts of society has been and is the goal of Russian rulers. (Ukrainian hunger, Ukrainian dams in 1930s - the purge of Ukrainians didn't start February last year)

Aerbil313 3y ago

In the pursuit of preventing much bigger tragedies? I can't speak of my anger rn. The IS is found and fed by America. They indiscriminately kill muslims and non-muslims, they don't behave like muslims at all and for some reason (?) they never touch Israel. All so that you can tell a hecking lie to come and murder our kids and rape our wives, and plunder whatever resources in our hands! To afterwards award the man who destroyed seven countries with a Nobel! I'm once again reminded that there is no modernity, it's medieval age all the way down, all the kings of west war for nothing but their power! We muslims are in no way inclined to harm you, GTFO of our countries!

lobocinza 3y ago
They behave like Muslims historically did.
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  No. Muslims did jihad, not terrorism. See the difference directly in a meme from the eyes of a leading Muslim news platform: https://muslimskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/photo_3_2023-08-09_12-14-39.jpg https://muslimskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/photo_3... In addition to that, it's strictly forbidden to plunder or steal, or harm women, children and elderly in the Islamic jihad. Pretty high standards the USA cannot and would not even dream of achieving. Snowden revelations come to mind.
  - lobocinza 3y ago
    Ideals were not always followed in practice. Early Christians were pacifists.

spopejoy 3y ago

The slavish apologizing is absolutely risible :) The US regime has (a) committed repeated genocides including children against Native Americans and black slaves (b) perpetuated the Jim Crow laws including terror, bombings and lynchings against the black population up through the 60s (c) invaded or directly supported lethal coups, dictators and genocides in Guatemala, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Paraguay, Indonesia (d) overthrown governments and participated in assassination plots in South Vietnam, Congo, Iran (e) supported Saudi Arabia in their shameful war in Yemen. An incomplete list to be sure. It's not that this is worse or better than [some other nation]. It's just that it's bad and pretending that the regime "meant well" is indefensible.

mistermann 3y ago

Westerners are also experts in using language like an expert musician can play an instrument, always impressive to watch.