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EU Law Disagrees. Feel free to Geoblock the entire market if you disagree. Many small news sites in the states do this.

tass 3y ago
Does that work? If I’m an EU citizen accessing a site from outside the EU, don’t I still have the right to be forgotten?
- littlestymaar 3y ago
  Yes
kragen 3y ago
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- Timon3 3y ago
  You disagreeing with something doesn't make it wrong. I'm sorry, but people in other parts of the world have a right to be forgotten, no matter how much you want to pretend they do not.
  - kragen 3y ago
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    - littlestymaar 3y ago
      Company's rights aren't human rights, in fact companies right is antagonists to human rights.
    - Timon3 3y ago
      Where do human rights come from? Did we have them from when we split off from our closest ancestors? Did they magically appear when someone first thought them up, and they just stayed? Why do our closest relatives not have human rights? You yourself mention that people in Belarus have human rights. Why can the government ignore their human rights then? Why isn't there some magic barrier stopping the government from trampling on the populations human rights?
      - kragen 3y ago
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        Timon3 3y ago
        I didn't ask you to tell you what I think. I asked you to tell me what you think. You are the one taking your position, I can't answer the questions from your position as you would.
        kragen 3y ago
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- littlestymaar 3y ago
  So you equate laws protecting individuals against businesses and laws protecting government against individual, really?
- 0ct4via 3y ago
  Please cite that law, otherwise cease repeatedly being disingenuous and fallacious. There is a massive difference between curtailing things like freedom of expression, and de-facto stating "Chinese law disagrees with..." when (a) no such law exists, and (b) you're making a ridiculous point in a transparent attempt to distract from your own failing -- namely being too ignorant to admit that the so-called "right to be forgotten" is a thing, whether you choose to believe (or accept) it, or not.
  - kragen 3y ago
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    - 0ct4via 3y ago
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      - kragen 3y ago
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        0ct4via 3y ago
        You realize your Googling doesn't make you an expert, right? It's very easy to be an American sitting in BA and judging things from what you've read on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean you have the slightest actual understanding of the law or its application in China. When you can read it in Mandarin and you've lived under and seen that particular law being applied in China, come back to me -- until then, keep your armchair-lawyering and racist condescension to yourself. No accusations, buy a dictionary and you'll see the words literally describe your actions and comments. Don't like being called arrogant and condescending? Don't make arrogant comments and be condescending towards others. Don't like the observation that your remarks are puerile? Try making remarks with a modicum of maturity and less transparent projection, then. Evidently you're too busy playing the victim to actually have any evidence to deny my point. Going "If YoU GoOgLe It" and making out like you're oppressed somehow is all you've got, then you don't have any kind of logical or sound basis for your "arguments" in the first place - such as they are. That's a lot of baseless assumption you've got there, buddy - all from the mind that gave us, "have you ever met a person"[1] ...which is the most transparent non-argument trolling attempts appear on HN of late. Bit hypocritical of you to try and harp on about kindness when all you've done is make baseless assumptions and false accusations to numerous people in recent threads... but then if you don't think you're being disingenuous, then you clearly won't have the forethought or self-awareness to realize that's not being "kind" ... which feeds back to the arrogance and narcissism observations, in a convenient little bundle. Going "I think x" is a bit ridiculous when you literally stated the "right to be forgotten" didn't exist -- then when you were shown otherwise, you got petulant and resorted to baseless assumptions and ad-hominems. You're not IMAX, so there's no reason to be projecting that much. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37149287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37149287

tass 3y ago

Does that work? If I’m an EU citizen accessing a site from outside the EU, don’t I still have the right to be forgotten?

littlestymaar 3y ago
Yes

kragen 3y ago

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Timon3 3y ago
You disagreeing with something doesn't make it wrong. I'm sorry, but people in other parts of the world have a right to be forgotten, no matter how much you want to pretend they do not.
- kragen 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - littlestymaar 3y ago
    Company's rights aren't human rights, in fact companies right is antagonists to human rights.
  - Timon3 3y ago
    Where do human rights come from? Did we have them from when we split off from our closest ancestors? Did they magically appear when someone first thought them up, and they just stayed? Why do our closest relatives not have human rights? You yourself mention that people in Belarus have human rights. Why can the government ignore their human rights then? Why isn't there some magic barrier stopping the government from trampling on the populations human rights?
    - kragen 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - Timon3 3y ago
        I didn't ask you to tell you what I think. I asked you to tell me what you think. You are the one taking your position, I can't answer the questions from your position as you would.
        kragen 3y ago
        [flagged]
littlestymaar 3y ago
So you equate laws protecting individuals against businesses and laws protecting government against individual, really?
0ct4via 3y ago
Please cite that law, otherwise cease repeatedly being disingenuous and fallacious. There is a massive difference between curtailing things like freedom of expression, and de-facto stating "Chinese law disagrees with..." when (a) no such law exists, and (b) you're making a ridiculous point in a transparent attempt to distract from your own failing -- namely being too ignorant to admit that the so-called "right to be forgotten" is a thing, whether you choose to believe (or accept) it, or not.
- kragen 3y ago
  [flagged]
  - 0ct4via 3y ago
    [flagged]
    - kragen 3y ago
      [flagged]
      - 0ct4via 3y ago
        You realize your Googling doesn't make you an expert, right? It's very easy to be an American sitting in BA and judging things from what you've read on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean you have the slightest actual understanding of the law or its application in China. When you can read it in Mandarin and you've lived under and seen that particular law being applied in China, come back to me -- until then, keep your armchair-lawyering and racist condescension to yourself. No accusations, buy a dictionary and you'll see the words literally describe your actions and comments. Don't like being called arrogant and condescending? Don't make arrogant comments and be condescending towards others. Don't like the observation that your remarks are puerile? Try making remarks with a modicum of maturity and less transparent projection, then. Evidently you're too busy playing the victim to actually have any evidence to deny my point. Going "If YoU GoOgLe It" and making out like you're oppressed somehow is all you've got, then you don't have any kind of logical or sound basis for your "arguments" in the first place - such as they are. That's a lot of baseless assumption you've got there, buddy - all from the mind that gave us, "have you ever met a person"[1] ...which is the most transparent non-argument trolling attempts appear on HN of late. Bit hypocritical of you to try and harp on about kindness when all you've done is make baseless assumptions and false accusations to numerous people in recent threads... but then if you don't think you're being disingenuous, then you clearly won't have the forethought or self-awareness to realize that's not being "kind" ... which feeds back to the arrogance and narcissism observations, in a convenient little bundle. Going "I think x" is a bit ridiculous when you literally stated the "right to be forgotten" didn't exist -- then when you were shown otherwise, you got petulant and resorted to baseless assumptions and ad-hominems. You're not IMAX, so there's no reason to be projecting that much. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37149287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37149287