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The "killing monkeys" is at least mildly relevant. How does this happen? I say interesting, based solely on your bullets and not having read the article, becau

The "killing monkeys" is at least mildly relevant. How does this happen? I say interesting, based solely on your bullets and not having read the article, because monkeys are similar enough primates to humans that when something affects them like that, we likely should be worried. We can't make ethical studies that result in death in humans (let alone debate the ethics on killing monkeys), so what's the scoop?

lionkor 3y ago
A high enough dose of pretty much anything could kill a monkey
- eggy 3y ago
  Six liters of water consumed within three hours killed a human among other notable water intoxication deaths, so most anything in large enough quantities will kill you.Toxicity levels need to be confirmed and established [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication From the Wikipedia link: 1097: During the First Crusade, according to at least one chronicle, many crusaders died after drinking too much from a river while marching to Antioch.[16] 1991, Andy Warhol: Five years after his death, Warhol's family publicly accused the hospital where he had his gallbladder removed of causing his death by water intoxication administered post-operatively. A claimed autopsy weight of 68 kg (150 lb), with his weight being 58 kg (128 lb) when admitted, was cited as evidence that too much fluid had been given.[17] November 16, 1995: Leah Betts, a British schoolgirl, died as the result of drinking too much water, though in the media her death was mistakenly attributed to taking an ecstasy tablet at her 18th birthday party.[18] 2003: British actor Anthony Andrews survived a case of water intoxication. He was performing as Henry Higgins in a revival of the musical My Fair Lady at the time, and consumed up to eight litres of water a day. He was unconscious and in intensive care for three days.[19][20] February 2, 2005: Matthew Carrington, a student at Chico State University in Chico, California, died as a direct result of a fraternity hazing ritual involving forced water intoxication. January 12, 2007: Jennifer Strange died after drinking nearly 2 gallons (7.6 liters) of water in an attempt to win a Nintendo Wii.[21] The KDND radio station's morning show, the Morning Rave, held an on-air contest entitled "Hold Your Wee for a Wii," in which contestants were asked to drink as much water as they could without urinating. The DJs were made aware of the dangers but did not inform the contestants. KDND's parent company, Entercom Sacramento LLC, was subsequently ordered to pay $16,577,118 in damages to Strange's family.[22][23] March 11, 2020: Zachary Sabin, an 11-year-old child, died after being forced to drink almost three liters of water in just four hours by his parents. They thought his urine was too dark, so they made him drink water until he threw up.[24] July 4, 2023: A 35 year old Indiana woman died after consuming too much water while on vacation with her family. [25]
mensetmanusman 3y ago
The shimmery residue on coffee surfaces apparently causes cancer if you concentrate it 10000x and inject it into mice. https://www.chemicalsafetyfacts.org/health-and-safety/does-coffee-need-a-cancer-warning-label-in-california/ https://www.chemicalsafetyfacts.org/health-and-safety/does-c...
- downWidOutaFite 3y ago
  This is why I switched from french press to pour overs, it reduces the amount of the shimmery film that ends up in the cup. In my mind if it kills monkey at high dose it has a likelihood of being bad for humans at a low (but daily) dose. The problem is that our scientific tools for studying human toxins are not very good. If it increases the chance of some disease by 1% we probably will never know.
  - huthuthike 3y ago
    I think that film is just oils from the coffee beans. Acrylamide is soluble in water, so why would it float on top? Anyway, a single coffee bean is probably enough to kill someone if you grind it up and inject it into the wrong part of them.
  - mensetmanusman 3y ago
    The risk reduction of your actions might be more like putting a helmet on while driving and less like checking your straps before BASE jumping.
    - riversflow 3y ago
      I haven’t checked lately, as cars have become better at crashing, but it was my understanding that putting on a helmet while driving/riding in a car is actually a really good idea, as car accidents are a leading(#2 in the below report, after falling) cause of head trauma. Here is a link supporting that idea: https://www.brainandspinalcord.org/motor-vehicle-accident/ https://www.brainandspinalcord.org/motor-vehicle-accident/
  - 3y ago

lionkor 3y ago

A high enough dose of pretty much anything could kill a monkey

eggy 3y ago
Six liters of water consumed within three hours killed a human among other notable water intoxication deaths, so most anything in large enough quantities will kill you.Toxicity levels need to be confirmed and established [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication From the Wikipedia link: 1097: During the First Crusade, according to at least one chronicle, many crusaders died after drinking too much from a river while marching to Antioch.[16] 1991, Andy Warhol: Five years after his death, Warhol's family publicly accused the hospital where he had his gallbladder removed of causing his death by water intoxication administered post-operatively. A claimed autopsy weight of 68 kg (150 lb), with his weight being 58 kg (128 lb) when admitted, was cited as evidence that too much fluid had been given.[17] November 16, 1995: Leah Betts, a British schoolgirl, died as the result of drinking too much water, though in the media her death was mistakenly attributed to taking an ecstasy tablet at her 18th birthday party.[18] 2003: British actor Anthony Andrews survived a case of water intoxication. He was performing as Henry Higgins in a revival of the musical My Fair Lady at the time, and consumed up to eight litres of water a day. He was unconscious and in intensive care for three days.[19][20] February 2, 2005: Matthew Carrington, a student at Chico State University in Chico, California, died as a direct result of a fraternity hazing ritual involving forced water intoxication. January 12, 2007: Jennifer Strange died after drinking nearly 2 gallons (7.6 liters) of water in an attempt to win a Nintendo Wii.[21] The KDND radio station's morning show, the Morning Rave, held an on-air contest entitled "Hold Your Wee for a Wii," in which contestants were asked to drink as much water as they could without urinating. The DJs were made aware of the dangers but did not inform the contestants. KDND's parent company, Entercom Sacramento LLC, was subsequently ordered to pay $16,577,118 in damages to Strange's family.[22][23] March 11, 2020: Zachary Sabin, an 11-year-old child, died after being forced to drink almost three liters of water in just four hours by his parents. They thought his urine was too dark, so they made him drink water until he threw up.[24] July 4, 2023: A 35 year old Indiana woman died after consuming too much water while on vacation with her family. [25]

mensetmanusman 3y ago

The shimmery residue on coffee surfaces apparently causes cancer if you concentrate it 10000x and inject it into mice. https://www.chemicalsafetyfacts.org/health-and-safety/does-coffee-need-a-cancer-warning-label-in-california/ https://www.chemicalsafetyfacts.org/health-and-safety/does-c...

downWidOutaFite 3y ago
This is why I switched from french press to pour overs, it reduces the amount of the shimmery film that ends up in the cup. In my mind if it kills monkey at high dose it has a likelihood of being bad for humans at a low (but daily) dose. The problem is that our scientific tools for studying human toxins are not very good. If it increases the chance of some disease by 1% we probably will never know.
- huthuthike 3y ago
  I think that film is just oils from the coffee beans. Acrylamide is soluble in water, so why would it float on top? Anyway, a single coffee bean is probably enough to kill someone if you grind it up and inject it into the wrong part of them.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  The risk reduction of your actions might be more like putting a helmet on while driving and less like checking your straps before BASE jumping.
  - riversflow 3y ago
    I haven’t checked lately, as cars have become better at crashing, but it was my understanding that putting on a helmet while driving/riding in a car is actually a really good idea, as car accidents are a leading(#2 in the below report, after falling) cause of head trauma. Here is a link supporting that idea: https://www.brainandspinalcord.org/motor-vehicle-accident/ https://www.brainandspinalcord.org/motor-vehicle-accident/
- 3y ago