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Please point me to the data then. How are these fires worse than before, if acres burned are the lowest in 10 years?

by zpeti 3y ago

defrost 3y ago
Sure. First point though, you bought up "but actually .. fires are decreasing". As a STEM educator used to talking to students my first question to you is, why aren't you already across the primary data yourself? Do you not care? Is this no more than a talking point for you like a meaningless afternoon tennis match? So .. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145421/building-a-long-term-record-of-fire https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145421/building-a-l... “There are really two separate trends,” said Randerson. “Even as the global burned area number has declined because of what is happening in savannas, we are seeing a significant increase in the intensity and reach of fires in the western United States because of climate change.” https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/topics/human-dimensions/natural-hazards/wildfires https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/topics/human-dimensions/natur... The number, severity, and overall size of wildfires has increased, FIRMS: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map See also: recent Australian Bushfires, Canadian Bushfires > How are these fires worse than before, if acres burned are the lowest in 10 years? I'm going to assume that as you're on HN you're more than bright enough to understand the difference between 3D volume and 2D area .. correct? That you understand a wide open grassland is different to a dense tall forest in terms of fuel volume?
- zpeti 3y ago
  The tweet I linked shows european wildfires. Last time I checked, there are no savannas in europe. "I'm going to assume that as you're on HN you're more than bright enough to" know there are no savannas in europe.
  - veave 3y ago
    You are falling in the trap of thinking that ecologists argue in good faith. They hate you, you are the carbon they want to reduce. Don't engage.

Please point me to the data then. How are these fires worse than before, if acres burned are the lowest in 10 years?

by zpeti 3y ago

Please point me to the data then. How are these fires worse than before, if acres burned are the lowest in 10 years?

Sure. First point though, you bought up "but actually .. fires are decreasing". As a STEM educator used to talking to students my first question to you is, why aren't you already across the primary data yourself? Do you not care? Is this no more than a talking point for you like a meaningless afternoon tennis match? So .. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145421/building-a-long-term-record-of-fire https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145421/building-a-l... “There are really two separate trends,” said Randerson. “Even as the global burned area number has declined because of what is happening in savannas, we are seeing a significant increase in the intensity and reach of fires in the western United States because of climate change.” https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/topics/human-dimensions/natural-hazards/wildfires https://www.earthdata.nasa.gov/topics/human-dimensions/natur... The number, severity, and overall size of wildfires has increased, FIRMS: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map See also: recent Australian Bushfires, Canadian Bushfires > How are these fires worse than before, if acres burned are the lowest in 10 years? I'm going to assume that as you're on HN you're more than bright enough to understand the difference between 3D volume and 2D area .. correct? That you understand a wide open grassland is different to a dense tall forest in terms of fuel volume?

zpeti 3y ago
The tweet I linked shows european wildfires. Last time I checked, there are no savannas in europe. "I'm going to assume that as you're on HN you're more than bright enough to" know there are no savannas in europe.
- veave 3y ago
  You are falling in the trap of thinking that ecologists argue in good faith. They hate you, you are the carbon they want to reduce. Don't engage.