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If you brought emissions per capita in the US and EU down to levels of Asia, would that not far exceed the outcomes people are currently trying to get to? If y
by CraigJPerry 3y ago
If you brought emissions per capita in the US and EU down to levels of Asia, would that not far exceed the outcomes people are currently trying to get to?
If you relocated the subset of manufacturing emissions that eminate from Asian manufacturing for the purposes of selling products to US/EU, while keeping to the above, so that product lifecycle emissions are accrued where they’re consumed rather than the current proxy emissions by outsourcing manufacturing to asia. Would that not automatically crater Asia emissions?
Neither of these actions would require impressing action upon foreign sovereigns.
- zpeti 3y agoChina's exports are actually flat at this point, yet their emissions are exploding. They have 1bn people who want to be richer. There is enough internal demand now that will mean emissions will rise without exports to the west. Have you seen the graph or how emissions have fallen for the US and EU in the last 5 years, yet every year more emissions are added by china than those put together?
- smcin 3y agoIf China were to keep depending on coal. In 2020 China has pledged to become carbon neutral by 2060, they will be under pressure to do better than that. > Have you seen the graph or how emissions have fallen for the US and EU in the last 5 years, What, including Covid, when the west temporarily turned off coal-power stations? Better to compare 2023 to 2019 numbers.
- DoingIsLearning 3y agoFor accuracy most of these discussions revolve around the dichotomy between China and EU+US but in reality if we look at emissions per capita the real outliers are the Gulf countries, Australia, US, Canada (in that order). So lets not forget about the Gulf countries and Canada/Australia role and responsability in our public discussion on this matter.