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Agree. But majority agreement is not a measurement for reasonable action. When seatbelt laws were introduced, the science was clear, the majority of the public

Agree. But majority agreement is not a measurement for reasonable action. When seatbelt laws were introduced, the science was clear, the majority of the public was against it. You could have decided to voluntary wear a seatbelt, and still put no dent in the stats of lethal car-accidents...

misja111 3y ago
This is not a good comparison. The people not wearing seatbelts didn't affect the lives of others, they only (voluntarily) risked their own. ECO terrorism is trying to force others to live how they want them to live. Regardless how convincing your belief, I don't think this is ever a good strategy.
- noobermin 3y ago
  I don't understand. How does not wearing seatblets being a risky choice for one's self strengthen your point? It was indeed exactly forcing people to live a different way by compelling them by law to use a specific implement while driving or riding in a car.
- A_non_e-moose 3y ago
  Seatbelts made cars more expensive for people who didn't want them and a person without a seatbelt is much more likely to traumatize someone in an accident with their easier and more gruesome death. Few decisions are made in a vacuum with no impact to others.
- FartyMcFarter 3y ago
  Seatbelts also protect the other occupants of the car from having a body thrown at them at high speeds.
- hackerlight 3y ago
  Seatbelt laws force seatbelts onto people that don't want them. Global warming forces negative outcomes onto people that don't pollute much. Anything and everything can be framed as an act of force. It is therefore unhelpful to think of things in these terms.
- jppittma 3y ago
  It's weird that this is so right, but so backwards at the same time. When you don't wear a seatbelt, you risk your own life. When the oceans heat up, and the fish start drowning, then everybody is affected. Destroying the shared environment is not your personal freedom.
- satao 3y ago
  A friend of mine got paraplegic because a person in the back seat of a car wasn’t using a seat belt during a crash. The body got launched on my friends seat, killing her and breaking my friends spine. So seatbelts do protect others.

misja111 3y ago

This is not a good comparison. The people not wearing seatbelts didn't affect the lives of others, they only (voluntarily) risked their own. ECO terrorism is trying to force others to live how they want them to live. Regardless how convincing your belief, I don't think this is ever a good strategy.

noobermin 3y ago
I don't understand. How does not wearing seatblets being a risky choice for one's self strengthen your point? It was indeed exactly forcing people to live a different way by compelling them by law to use a specific implement while driving or riding in a car.
A_non_e-moose 3y ago
Seatbelts made cars more expensive for people who didn't want them and a person without a seatbelt is much more likely to traumatize someone in an accident with their easier and more gruesome death. Few decisions are made in a vacuum with no impact to others.
FartyMcFarter 3y ago
Seatbelts also protect the other occupants of the car from having a body thrown at them at high speeds.
hackerlight 3y ago
Seatbelt laws force seatbelts onto people that don't want them. Global warming forces negative outcomes onto people that don't pollute much. Anything and everything can be framed as an act of force. It is therefore unhelpful to think of things in these terms.
jppittma 3y ago
It's weird that this is so right, but so backwards at the same time. When you don't wear a seatbelt, you risk your own life. When the oceans heat up, and the fish start drowning, then everybody is affected. Destroying the shared environment is not your personal freedom.
satao 3y ago
A friend of mine got paraplegic because a person in the back seat of a car wasn’t using a seat belt during a crash. The body got launched on my friends seat, killing her and breaking my friends spine. So seatbelts do protect others.