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You’re already in it. Most of your superiors, government representatives, and peer group are white guys. Statistically speaking, of course.

by 9dev 3y ago

chrisco255 3y ago
If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity. That being said, averages are absolutely terrible for informing decisions such as whether or not such a support group should exist. Plenty of white men slip through the cracks and end up in depression, drug abuse, poverty, and all the other ailments. Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support. If I were to go to China, of course, as a white guy, I would never presume to be able to even achieve any type of leadership or government position there. And it's not just due to communism. I would not be able to achieve that in Japan either. And I struggle to conjure examples of native born U.S. ex-pats who emigrated from U.S. and then came to prominence in another country but I can think of many examples of the reverse.
- idontwantthis 3y ago
  My guy’s persecution is so complex he’s even being oppressed in countries he’s never been too.
- 9dev 3y ago
  > If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity. And what about women from your particular ethnic group? Just because things went like they did historically doesn’t mean we cannot acknowledge that some people have an edge over others. > Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support. That’s a fair point, if we’re talking about general care and crisis response. The topic has been career advancement and employee support however, and a white male in the USA or Europe already has all the odds in their favour. A support group for white men to help each other with the burden of being a white man is therefore, frankly, pretty ridiculous.

You’re already in it. Most of your superiors, government representatives, and peer group are white guys. Statistically speaking, of course.

by 9dev 3y ago

You’re already in it. Most of your superiors, government representatives, and peer group are white guys. Statistically speaking, of course.

chrisco255 3y ago

If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity. That being said, averages are absolutely terrible for informing decisions such as whether or not such a support group should exist. Plenty of white men slip through the cracks and end up in depression, drug abuse, poverty, and all the other ailments. Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support. If I were to go to China, of course, as a white guy, I would never presume to be able to even achieve any type of leadership or government position there. And it's not just due to communism. I would not be able to achieve that in Japan either. And I struggle to conjure examples of native born U.S. ex-pats who emigrated from U.S. and then came to prominence in another country but I can think of many examples of the reverse.

idontwantthis 3y ago
My guy’s persecution is so complex he’s even being oppressed in countries he’s never been too.
9dev 3y ago
> If you belong to a culture or country that was founded by a particular ethnic group, I would expect that to be true, so long as the majority population is that ethnicity. And what about women from your particular ethnic group? Just because things went like they did historically doesn’t mean we cannot acknowledge that some people have an edge over others. > Even if they're statistically doing better on average than some other groups in some cases, it could mean that tens of millions are suffering with no help and no support. That’s a fair point, if we’re talking about general care and crisis response. The topic has been career advancement and employee support however, and a white male in the USA or Europe already has all the odds in their favour. A support group for white men to help each other with the burden of being a white man is therefore, frankly, pretty ridiculous.