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For founders there is (imo) a really strong red flag that you should be on the lookout for. He insisted founders paid for "due dilligence" to be conducted by a
by seanhunter 3y ago
For founders there is (imo) a really strong red flag that you should be on the lookout for. He insisted founders paid for "due dilligence" to be conducted by a firm he covertly controlled and when they paid the fees that firm evaporated with the cash.
I don't think any legitimate investor is going to say you should pay for their due dilligence, and that's never happened in any of the situations I'm familiar with, which include several rounds across private offices, PE and VC firms small and large (and megalarge)[1]. If you think about it, for the target firm to pay for due dilligence would set up a direct conflict of interest - the due dilligence team has to be 100% working for the interests of the investor.
The problem here is he was paying finders fees for introductions from people who are probably legit and don't know what he was up to. So as a founder on the lookout for investment you might be inclined to trust him because the introduction would come through someone already in your network that you probably already trust (at least a bit). I could totally see how you might overlook if you are burning through your runway and someone seems to offer you a great deal, but you have to constantly be on the lookout for people out to shaft you in one way or another and this is something people might have spotted if they thought about it.
[1] Thinking about it, I've been in situations where fees of one kind or another get paid by the target firm when the deal closes but I don't think that's the same.
- 55555 3y agoConsidering he controls both firms, keep in mind he could even offer to split the fees, or offer to pay 90% of the fees. Then it sounds pretty generous instead of shady... At the end of the day, this scam works because someone confidently tells you over video that he wants nothing more than to invest 10 million dollars and the only thing that would possibly stop him would be that if due diligence discovered fraud at your startup. It'll keep working, and it's basically because people aren't used to dealing with conmen who are willing to look you in the eye, shake your hand, etc.
- thaumasiotes 3y ago> If you think about it, for the target firm to pay for due dilligence would set up a direct conflict of interest - the due dilligence team has to be 100% working for the interests of the investor. That would be true if the target firm got to pick the due diligence team. In this case, the investor specified who the due diligence team would be, which negates the conflict of interest.