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The idea that one should not be made to suffer for the sins of their parents is one of the bedrocks of western justice and politics philosophies. We should str

by vsnf 3y ago

The idea that one should not be made to suffer for the sins of their parents is one of the bedrocks of western justice and politics philosophies. We should strive to correct prior unfairness with some other way than by propagating further unfairness.

blackoil 3y ago
While I agree in principle. We mostly enjoy benefits of those sins. The money/land/power gained by ancestors by means which we believe unethical/illegal now continues to provide value for the descendants.
- somenameforme 3y ago
  The overwhelming majority of people live in cities on land that has no relationship whatsoever to their distant family and have no power whatsoever. As for money, look at any table of income by ethnicity/race [1] in the US, and the top earners are overwhelmingly Asians. Similarly for religion [2] where the highest earners are Jews and Hindus. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U... [2] - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/10/11/how-incom...
Simon_O_Rourke 3y ago
These HN topics are almost verging on dogwhistle politics, where people can't take their head out of the sand for a second to see that the compensation system overall in tech needs to be badly overhauled. Even though this is an old article, it addresses something which should be of interest to most here - namely that whatever color or stripe or creed you are yourself, the odds are that you're personally getting less than you should in terms of compensation. I know people almost single-handedly keeping valuable back-end systems running, that accrue millions in revenue for a company, but yet the company pays them less than the industry average for their role. Conversely, I have worked with corporate ladder-climbers who contribute nothing beyond endless catch-up meetings that earn more. If you do good work, that directly supports or creates revenue for your company, you deserve a fair slice of that, regardless of how your role is perceived by often technically illiterate HR and management layers.

by vsnf 3y ago

blackoil 3y ago

While I agree in principle. We mostly enjoy benefits of those sins. The money/land/power gained by ancestors by means which we believe unethical/illegal now continues to provide value for the descendants.

somenameforme 3y ago
The overwhelming majority of people live in cities on land that has no relationship whatsoever to their distant family and have no power whatsoever. As for money, look at any table of income by ethnicity/race [1] in the US, and the top earners are overwhelmingly Asians. Similarly for religion [2] where the highest earners are Jews and Hindus. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_U... [2] - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/10/11/how-income-varies-among-u-s-religious-groups/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2016/10/11/how-incom...

Simon_O_Rourke 3y ago

These HN topics are almost verging on dogwhistle politics, where people can't take their head out of the sand for a second to see that the compensation system overall in tech needs to be badly overhauled. Even though this is an old article, it addresses something which should be of interest to most here - namely that whatever color or stripe or creed you are yourself, the odds are that you're personally getting less than you should in terms of compensation. I know people almost single-handedly keeping valuable back-end systems running, that accrue millions in revenue for a company, but yet the company pays them less than the industry average for their role. Conversely, I have worked with corporate ladder-climbers who contribute nothing beyond endless catch-up meetings that earn more. If you do good work, that directly supports or creates revenue for your company, you deserve a fair slice of that, regardless of how your role is perceived by often technically illiterate HR and management layers.