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I appreciate the inversion/melding of the data model and compute. Im curious to know your perspective on two parts: How would multitenancy fit in to rama? Usin

I appreciate the inversion/melding of the data model and compute. Im curious to know your perspective on two parts: How would multitenancy fit in to rama? Using your mastodon example, providing “hosted mastodon instances as a service”, where you _also_ allow for data governance, per customer encryption at rest, user IDP support, etc. Is it multiple single tenant rama deployments, running independent customers? Multitenant rama clusters with shared depos and each pstate includes “tenant id”? Something else? Second whats the product/business angle on customer confidence, technical novelty, and your business core competency? A dated example but Im thinking of somewhere like basho with riak. Super cool tool, takes some mental adjustment to “get”, challlenges selling hosting vs software vs pro services.

nathanmarz 3y ago
For now it's going to be on-prem, so each user will just have their own cluster. Things like E2E encryption are pretty easy to implement on top of Rama's existing primitives (there was a good question about this on the rama-user group yesterday https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rama-user/c/jj-ILcoMjtk https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rama-user/c/jj-ILcoMjtk). We'll likely have a fully managed cloud version in the future. Riak was good technology at the time, but it was really hard to distinguish from other K/V databases and didn't really move the needle on core business metrics (like development cost). Rama dramatically changes the economics of building large-scale software. It will take awhile for many to grasp that, as is obvious from many of the comments here, but I expect that as more and more users have massive success with Rama, that understanding will come.
- leventov 3y ago
  The big question is whether we really want more centralised cloud applications of this sort in the AI future, with its potentially exacerbated risks of data breaches, identity theft, spam, etc. Having a "Rama" for local-first, truly distributed (Solid Project style), self-sovereign-identity based apps would be differentially better probably.

nathanmarz 3y ago

For now it's going to be on-prem, so each user will just have their own cluster. Things like E2E encryption are pretty easy to implement on top of Rama's existing primitives (there was a good question about this on the rama-user group yesterday https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rama-user/c/jj-ILcoMjtk https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rama-user/c/jj-ILcoMjtk). We'll likely have a fully managed cloud version in the future. Riak was good technology at the time, but it was really hard to distinguish from other K/V databases and didn't really move the needle on core business metrics (like development cost). Rama dramatically changes the economics of building large-scale software. It will take awhile for many to grasp that, as is obvious from many of the comments here, but I expect that as more and more users have massive success with Rama, that understanding will come.

leventov 3y ago
The big question is whether we really want more centralised cloud applications of this sort in the AI future, with its potentially exacerbated risks of data breaches, identity theft, spam, etc. Having a "Rama" for local-first, truly distributed (Solid Project style), self-sovereign-identity based apps would be differentially better probably.