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Ok, on what grounds is technology that performs a job that humans can generally do better at beneficial in the broad sense? That it's benefitting a handful of i
by forgetfreeman 3y ago
Ok, on what grounds is technology that performs a job that humans can generally do better at beneficial in the broad sense? That it's benefitting a handful of individuals who profit off eliminating jobs isn't in question, but where's the upside for the rest of us?
- squokko 3y agoThe upside is that automobile crashes kill >30,000 people in the US alone and self-driving cars may one day bring that number down by 90%
- forgetfreeman 3y agoMight they? Is that a purely faith-based assertion or is that claim grounded in anything? Because current performance suggests otherwise.
- squokko 3y agoCurrent performance definitely does not suggest otherwise! Over Waymo's first million miles, it was involved in two collisions, one of them at-fault. The average for human drivers is 5.3 collisions per million miles.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoOh no you don't. Waymo describes it's tech as Level 4 automation. That is an explicit statement that it underperforms human capabilities and has only been greenlit for -very- limited areas and conditions. Industry reports on the subject suggest Level 5 autonomy won't be possible for at least the next 12 years, which is synonymous with saying the industry currently has no idea how to get there.
- squokko 3y agoIt doesn't matter if it's only greenlit for limited areas and conditions -- just use them where they work! Don't use them where they don't!
- Manuel_D 3y agoEnormous amounts of time are wasted commuting. The passengers benefit from self driving cars, not just the auto maker.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoSo you're saying a handful of randos having a little spare time to catch up on Reddit during their commute is a net plus trade for putting mediocre operators on the road? That's definitely a take.
- Manuel_D 3y ago"A little spare time" is more than two hours a day for a lot of people.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoThat's a lot of Reddit.
- benatkin 3y agoIf they don't end up distracting incessantly with ads
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- benatkin 3y agoFor me it's safety (each problem solved gets applied to others, but it could be more profound than that, like chess AIs) and potential to decide on the fly whether to have something similar to a rental car or a much lower rate. For instance maybe I could know a car would be waiting for me and leave my backpack behind while I go on a hike. Plus environmental and city planning hopes.
- flutas 3y agoMy mom (who is legally blind) wouldn't have to resort to driving herself to her doctors appointments when myself and my brother are unable to due to work.