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> my city spent hundreds of millions rebuilding downtown infrastructure to be cyclist friendly Not that you probably care, but in most places, investment and g

> my city spent hundreds of millions rebuilding downtown infrastructure to be cyclist friendly Not that you probably care, but in most places, investment and growth of cycling results in a net gain for the community and government, both directly and indirectly. Cycling infrastructure is cheap to put in, cheap to maintain, and has social + health benefits too. The state + city I live in love putting in cycling infra (even if it’s a bit flawed and wonky) because it literally gains money. Road maintenance costs go down, short and long-term health spending decreases because people are healthier.

wredue 3y ago
I’m really sorry to tell you this, but cycling infrastructure actually doesn’t improve health, because statistics on bicycle usage doesn’t show any notable increases with or without biking infrastructure. First reason, at least in the north, is cause it’s below zero for half the year. Second reason is cause, at least in the south, cause it’s fucking hot Third reason is cause most of us are incredibly lazy. Do you have sources that measure your other purported benefits? By source, I mean actual measured sources in a study. Not “it’s true because this article also states it, but does so with bad anecdotes” I’m not against reducing cars on the road. I am against doing it wrong though.
- kspacewalk2 3y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5858726/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5858726/ https://cyclingincities.spph.ubc.ca/injuries/the-bice-study/ https://cyclingincities.spph.ubc.ca/injuries/the-bice-study/ https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-069X-8-47 https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-06... With the skimming of abstracts, that took < 5 minutes from opening google to typing this. Three will suffice, I trust? I don't have hours to read abstracts for the other fifty. >at least in the north, is cause it’s below zero for half the year. Oh, okay, in the north. If you're American, I'm currently north of you unless you happen to be in Alaska, and I bike 9-10 months a year, basically until it gets below zero. Someone forgot to tell Canadians it's below zero here for half the year :)

wredue 3y ago

I’m really sorry to tell you this, but cycling infrastructure actually doesn’t improve health, because statistics on bicycle usage doesn’t show any notable increases with or without biking infrastructure. First reason, at least in the north, is cause it’s below zero for half the year. Second reason is cause, at least in the south, cause it’s fucking hot Third reason is cause most of us are incredibly lazy. Do you have sources that measure your other purported benefits? By source, I mean actual measured sources in a study. Not “it’s true because this article also states it, but does so with bad anecdotes” I’m not against reducing cars on the road. I am against doing it wrong though.

kspacewalk2 3y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5858726/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5858726/ https://cyclingincities.spph.ubc.ca/injuries/the-bice-study/ https://cyclingincities.spph.ubc.ca/injuries/the-bice-study/ https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-069X-8-47 https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-06... With the skimming of abstracts, that took < 5 minutes from opening google to typing this. Three will suffice, I trust? I don't have hours to read abstracts for the other fifty. >at least in the north, is cause it’s below zero for half the year. Oh, okay, in the north. If you're American, I'm currently north of you unless you happen to be in Alaska, and I bike 9-10 months a year, basically until it gets below zero. Someone forgot to tell Canadians it's below zero here for half the year :)