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I know this is a joke and sarcasm but. > Sixty-six percent of drivers routinely commit moving violations, compared with 5 percent of cyclists when they have so
by tick_tock_tick 3y ago
I know this is a joke and sarcasm but.
> Sixty-six percent of drivers routinely commit moving violations, compared with 5 percent of cyclists when they have somewhere safe to ride.
I don't think I've ever riden a bike without committing a moving violation.
- Failure to signal with your hand is a moving violation.
- Idaho stops (yielding instead of stopping at a stop sign is a violation in most state)
- nimbleplum40 3y agoIf fairness, you probably haven’t driven without committing one either.
- mgarfias 3y agoI’m pretty proud of some of my infractions.
- bifrost 3y agoI've honestly never seen a cyclist in my city follow the law. I was hit as a pedestrian as a result of that.
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- bryanlarsen 3y agoAnd a lot more than 66% of drivers routinely commit moving violations. 1 mile over the speed limit is a common one.
- jauntywundrkind 3y agoDC legalized Idaho stops. Nothing feels at all different. Almost all bicyclists are so much better about clearing intersections than anything else moving that nothing else makes any sense. There's effectively zero cost, except making drivers green with envy/making them lose their cool. I do signal. It's pretty rare for bicyclists, but it's also 50/50 at best for cars, and they near universally operate with much less safety margin/more risk than any bicyclist (ironically the extra scared/slow/cautious drivers are often those that I see create the worst scares, damning all by their lack of clear confidemt cool execution). It feels like only recently (in the US at least) are some cities & states trying to figure out what rules make sense for bicyclists. It's easy to just say, you're like a car, follow all those rules, but it doesn't really make sense. Bicyclists just don't take up enough space & are so much more nimble, so much more free, and often usage of those capabilities can speed up cities where cars, bikes, and people move around.
- Incipient 3y agoHere in Australia we have "stop" signs where there is a high risk, lots of or poorer visibility, and you're required to stop. We have "give way" signs in lower risk areas where you can slow down but roll through. Seems a lot more reasonable to have risk-appropriate signage.
- georgeplusplus 3y agoLeave it to nanny state Australia to think Signage is effective enforcement. I think Germany has the best infrastructure and culture. It’s very organized and well respected. Bikes usually have a portion of the walk paths just for them and traffic lights for bicyclists that are generally well followed. Pedestrians do not walk into the bike paths or they get yelled at by other pedestrians and cyclists.
- oneTbrain23 3y agoRoads aren't meant for bikes. It is just too dangerous...I had seen more than 3 cyclist mangled and bloodied in front of me. Just like skating,m find a velodrom to do so. If it is meant for transport, get a car or Tesla. Your live is worth more than a high end bike savings vs a low end lemon car.
- ryukafalz 3y ago"Just get a car" is not a solution. A (non-exhaustive) list of people for whom that doesn't work: - Those too poor to buy a car - Kids/early teenagers - The elderly, past the point at which they're unfit to drive (this will be you and me someday, if we're lucky enough to live that long) - Those with disabilities precluding them from driving If we design our cities such that driving a car is the only safe way of getting around, what we're doing is making all of these people dependent on others to get around. Even if they're physically capable enough to bike or ride a mobility scooter to where they need to go!
- xtiansimon 3y ago> “Idaho stops” Known as “Hollywood” stop in my house, at least when driving a car.
- Delphiza 3y agoI don't think that I ever 'commit a moving violation'. Granted, this is region-specific (UK). - We don't have stop streets really, and none where I cycle. Yields and roundabouts, so no need to stop. - Hand signals are not a legal requirement - I do stop at traffic lights In a car I am sure I will go an mph or two above the speed limit at least once on every single journey.
- taylodl 3y ago"Failure to signal" - one of my pet peeves of car drivers. IF they signal at all, it's commonly only if there are other cars around. They don't signal for cyclists or pedestrians. Then there's the problem that too many drivers don't know what the hand signals even mean.
- nickthegreek 3y agoI got yelled at before for hand singling by a car as they assumed I was flipping them off.