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Not sure why this is being upvoted. ICAO doesn't expressly forbid line up and wait clearances with someone on final approach. In fact they're quite common in th
by alfalfasprout 3y ago
Not sure why this is being upvoted. ICAO doesn't expressly forbid line up and wait clearances with someone on final approach. In fact they're quite common in the EU. They're often conditional though (eg; "BEHIND the landing aircraft".) Pilots can mistake the aircraft being referred to, etc.
In general conditional type clearances have always been somewhat sketchy especially at busy airports where workloads are high.
- alistairSH 3y agoYou're correct, EASA allows conditional clearances ("clear to land after departing plane clears runway"). But the linked event was not a conditional clearance. The approaching jet was cleared to land, meanwhile the ATC got distracted and left the SWA jet on the active runway without clearance to take-off. IIRC, EASA requires the conditional to be explicit, with the condition named and read back, and both ATC and cleared plane to have visual on the conditional aircraft.