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Re point #1 there has been a big shift in the corporate world to hiring vendors for any "non-essential" services. So now the chance of someone moving up from th
by pradn 3y ago
Re point #1 there has been a big shift in the corporate world to hiring vendors for any "non-essential" services. So now the chance of someone moving up from the mail room is low. There's been a progressive shift in how corporations work. It's an organizational change.
- michaelrpeskin 3y agoI was just talking about this idea related to technology in general making it hard for people to break in at the entry level. Even something as simple as construction: Before mechanization, you needed a bunch of "ditch diggers" to do the manual labor. And after being on the site for a while, you'd start to pick up things and then can move up to more skilled labor while 1) getting paid to do the low skilled labor and 2) learning on the job while still providing value. As tech takes away the low skill jobs, the skill level for "entry level" becomes higher and there's no way to learn on the job, you need to pay for education to level up enough to get started. LLMs are just the current example of this, but it's been happening for years. Not saying it's good or bad, but it is interesting that "working your way up" gets harder over time because it's harder to get that entry level low skill work.
- waldothedog 3y agoEven if you were a contractor performing these “non-essential services” it isn’t uncommon to take that experience and “move up” by moving to another organization. This pattern is also broken by the dynamic described in parent comment