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I don't trust anyone other than Google with my passwords. Google password manager is only available on Chrome. So unfortunately I'm locked into Chrome. I do lik

I don't trust anyone other than Google with my passwords. Google password manager is only available on Chrome. So unfortunately I'm locked into Chrome. I do like Edge and Firefox but the passwords are an issue.

ur-whale 3y ago
> I don't trust anyone other than Google with my passwords. At this stage in their corporate life-cycle, where greed and complete and utter lack of care towards user happiness reigns supreme, trusting google with anything is a rather large mistake IMO.
cyberlurker 3y ago
You trust Google with your passwords? And you trust them more than 1Password, Apple, etc.? I’d love to hear more about that statement.
- andersa 3y ago
  Is the Apple password manager available on non-Apple devices? It could be argued that Google has significantly more resources to invest in security of the password storage than these smaller companies. We've recently seen LastPass implode, but I've never heard of any successful attack on Google password manager. Still prefer to keep them offline though.
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    I don’t really get how people keep falling for online password managers. The only thing I can think is there must be some psychological effect: “well, this person is suggesting something that I know to be very dumb. So, I guess they must know something I don’t, better trust them!”
    - tristan957 3y ago
      Or we just appreciate convenience. I trust Bitwarden to operate a great secure service.
      - lost_tourist 3y ago
        still doesn't hurt to have the desktop app on your laptop in case something ever goes wrong on their servers :) . I have it on a couple.
  - tiltowait 3y ago
    It's available on Windows. Not sure about Linux/Android.
  - ComputerGuru 3y ago
    > Is the Apple password manager available on non-Apple devices? As of last month or so, it is now available on Windows as well.
jusoren 3y ago
What happen if google itself is the adversary in the safety of your passwords? That spur of the moment trollish YouTube comment might get flagged, bringing down your google account and all services tied with it; gmail, gdrive, your saved passwords etc. Then trying to rectify the situation is close to impossible since theres no human support for (free) google account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-csam-account-blocked https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...
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est31 3y ago
Then you are one Google account compromise away from disaster: https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/warning-dont-let-google-manage-your-passwords https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/warning-dont-let-google-manag... Google password manager is not end to end encrypted. LastPass, Bitwarden, and Firefox too, are end to end encrypted with the user chosen password at least. If your password is strong enough, it should be safe. Apple also uses end to end encryption, although there you might also be vulnerable via a hack of your iCloud account, not sure. 1Password is the most secure option: here, in addition to your password being encrypted with your master password, it's also encrypted via a secret key that is pre-generated. So a leaked encrypted 1Password backup won't be brute-forceable.
- sp332 3y ago
  You can enable "on-device encryption" for Google password manager. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/11350823?sjid=1787967899990278224-NA https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/11350823?sjid=178...
- Grazester 3y ago
  LastPass should not even be mentioned.
Propelloni 3y ago
Of course this is only my opinion, but I'd rather trust an open-source password manager such as KeePassXC. They all have browser integration (native or plug-in) if this is important.

ur-whale 3y ago

> I don't trust anyone other than Google with my passwords. At this stage in their corporate life-cycle, where greed and complete and utter lack of care towards user happiness reigns supreme, trusting google with anything is a rather large mistake IMO.

cyberlurker 3y ago

You trust Google with your passwords? And you trust them more than 1Password, Apple, etc.? I’d love to hear more about that statement.

andersa 3y ago
Is the Apple password manager available on non-Apple devices? It could be argued that Google has significantly more resources to invest in security of the password storage than these smaller companies. We've recently seen LastPass implode, but I've never heard of any successful attack on Google password manager. Still prefer to keep them offline though.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  I don’t really get how people keep falling for online password managers. The only thing I can think is there must be some psychological effect: “well, this person is suggesting something that I know to be very dumb. So, I guess they must know something I don’t, better trust them!”
  - tristan957 3y ago
    Or we just appreciate convenience. I trust Bitwarden to operate a great secure service.
    - lost_tourist 3y ago
      still doesn't hurt to have the desktop app on your laptop in case something ever goes wrong on their servers :) . I have it on a couple.
- tiltowait 3y ago
  It's available on Windows. Not sure about Linux/Android.
- ComputerGuru 3y ago
  > Is the Apple password manager available on non-Apple devices? As of last month or so, it is now available on Windows as well.

jusoren 3y ago

What happen if google itself is the adversary in the safety of your passwords? That spur of the moment trollish YouTube comment might get flagged, bringing down your google account and all services tied with it; gmail, gdrive, your saved passwords etc. Then trying to rectify the situation is close to impossible since theres no human support for (free) google account. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-csam-account-blocked https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...

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est31 3y ago

Then you are one Google account compromise away from disaster: https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/warning-dont-let-google-manage-your-passwords https://www.pcmag.com/opinions/warning-dont-let-google-manag... Google password manager is not end to end encrypted. LastPass, Bitwarden, and Firefox too, are end to end encrypted with the user chosen password at least. If your password is strong enough, it should be safe. Apple also uses end to end encryption, although there you might also be vulnerable via a hack of your iCloud account, not sure. 1Password is the most secure option: here, in addition to your password being encrypted with your master password, it's also encrypted via a secret key that is pre-generated. So a leaked encrypted 1Password backup won't be brute-forceable.

sp332 3y ago
You can enable "on-device encryption" for Google password manager. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/11350823?sjid=1787967899990278224-NA https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/11350823?sjid=178...
Grazester 3y ago
LastPass should not even be mentioned.

Propelloni 3y ago

Of course this is only my opinion, but I'd rather trust an open-source password manager such as KeePassXC. They all have browser integration (native or plug-in) if this is important.