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Not really. The idea of collectable cards that you can't do anything with is antiquated. Ever since Magic: The Gathering came along, kids who are interested in

Not really. The idea of collectable cards that you can't do anything with is antiquated. Ever since Magic: The Gathering came along, kids who are interested in collecting (Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, whatever) want to do more with cards than look at them in a binder.

permo-w 3y ago
Pokemon cards, especially rare ones, are as big as ever, possibly bigger since a certain brand of influencers have taken an interest. As ever, you can buy them in pretty much any applicable shop in the UK. Match Attax and other football cards are still going very healthily I don't know or know of a child who is interested in Magic: The Gathering. Their target market is more like late teens and young adults. If you want a more accurate usurper to trading cards, you're best looking at things like Fifa Ultimate Team[1] - which, honestly, have missed a trick in not branching into physical cards - and Skylanders. Possibly also collecting skins on Fortnite and that kind of thing [1] a sort of virtual card-collecting football game made by EA where you open packs of cards containing football players and other items
- roxil 3y ago
  I stupidly got into FIFA Ultimate Team (FUT) in one of the games from a cellphone couple years ago. I mistakenly assumed that your team from one annual release of FIFA would carry over to the next release, but I was shocked to find out that this isn't the case. EA basically deletes players FUT progress every year! Thankfully I didn't spend any money on it, so it was just time spent which was at least kind of fun, but I know some friends who have sunk a couple hundred bucks into it and they continue to buy and play the next game. I'm baffled that people put up with this. I will never touch FIFA again, until this changes. At least Fanatics can't delete your trading cards and you can resell them. Until there are similar guarantees for digital items, I don't think they will have nearly the same appeal. Valve has been the only company I know of that has done this decently with TF2, CSGO and Dota 2 skins.
  - permo-w 3y ago
    I think the issue you have is real, but perhaps not quite in the way you think? if you have the full game on a console/PC, you can continue to play with your team from the previous year until maybe 3 or 4 years on when they turn off the servers, and all your work is lost forever. that's the thing I have an issue with. I'd love to go back and play with my teams from FIFA 13 or 15, but they're lost to the wind, or at least somewhere within EA's archives, at best Your issue is an issue with the way they implement the app, which has always been a bit of an afterthought to the main game in general. Still a valid issue and must have been extremely annoying, but I suspect your case might be quite unusual in that you came into it via the app, rather than the main title. however admittedly I'm not as au fait with the FIFA world as I used to be, so that may be more common than I assume
- hathchip 3y ago
  I play M:TG with my 10 year old son and have done for a couple of years. I know of another family with boys roughly the same age who also play.
TylerE 3y ago
Baseball cards had a use when, ya know, the internet and even things like printed annual references, either didn’t exist or would not have been affordable to the average kid.
- tomjakubowski 3y ago
  yeah and, strangely, part of the value in a legendary player's "rookie card" is that it's devoid of all that useful information, because nobody at the time knew yet how good (say) Homer Simpson would be in his career
uses 3y ago
Weirdly enough, every anecdote I've heard about Pokemon cards is that they are collected far more than played, and that most people who own them don't know how the game works.
munificent 3y ago
I'm surprised that someone hasn't created a sports-themed collectible card game that uses real players for the roster. One of the real magic things about Madden as a videogame is that it has the same teams and players you know, with stats intended to reflect their real-world performance. The result is that you can take all of the sports knowledge you already have in your head from being into football and know that knowledge materially makes you better at this videogame. Seems like you could do the same thing for a collectible card game and make a mint.
- mitchdoogle 3y ago
  It would be nice if anyone could just do that, but the leagues have exclusive agreements. That's why you don't see anything cool or interesting anymore in major sports video games, as the article mentions
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > I'm surprised that someone hasn't created a sports-themed collectible card game that uses real players for the roster. IIRC, they did for all the major (in the US) professional sports at the height of the CCG craze; one example was MLB Showdown: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB_Showdown https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB_Showdown
internet101010 3y ago
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permo-w 3y ago

Pokemon cards, especially rare ones, are as big as ever, possibly bigger since a certain brand of influencers have taken an interest. As ever, you can buy them in pretty much any applicable shop in the UK. Match Attax and other football cards are still going very healthily I don't know or know of a child who is interested in Magic: The Gathering. Their target market is more like late teens and young adults. If you want a more accurate usurper to trading cards, you're best looking at things like Fifa Ultimate Team[1] - which, honestly, have missed a trick in not branching into physical cards - and Skylanders. Possibly also collecting skins on Fortnite and that kind of thing [1] a sort of virtual card-collecting football game made by EA where you open packs of cards containing football players and other items

roxil 3y ago
I stupidly got into FIFA Ultimate Team (FUT) in one of the games from a cellphone couple years ago. I mistakenly assumed that your team from one annual release of FIFA would carry over to the next release, but I was shocked to find out that this isn't the case. EA basically deletes players FUT progress every year! Thankfully I didn't spend any money on it, so it was just time spent which was at least kind of fun, but I know some friends who have sunk a couple hundred bucks into it and they continue to buy and play the next game. I'm baffled that people put up with this. I will never touch FIFA again, until this changes. At least Fanatics can't delete your trading cards and you can resell them. Until there are similar guarantees for digital items, I don't think they will have nearly the same appeal. Valve has been the only company I know of that has done this decently with TF2, CSGO and Dota 2 skins.
- permo-w 3y ago
  I think the issue you have is real, but perhaps not quite in the way you think? if you have the full game on a console/PC, you can continue to play with your team from the previous year until maybe 3 or 4 years on when they turn off the servers, and all your work is lost forever. that's the thing I have an issue with. I'd love to go back and play with my teams from FIFA 13 or 15, but they're lost to the wind, or at least somewhere within EA's archives, at best Your issue is an issue with the way they implement the app, which has always been a bit of an afterthought to the main game in general. Still a valid issue and must have been extremely annoying, but I suspect your case might be quite unusual in that you came into it via the app, rather than the main title. however admittedly I'm not as au fait with the FIFA world as I used to be, so that may be more common than I assume
hathchip 3y ago
I play M:TG with my 10 year old son and have done for a couple of years. I know of another family with boys roughly the same age who also play.

TylerE 3y ago

Baseball cards had a use when, ya know, the internet and even things like printed annual references, either didn’t exist or would not have been affordable to the average kid.

tomjakubowski 3y ago
yeah and, strangely, part of the value in a legendary player's "rookie card" is that it's devoid of all that useful information, because nobody at the time knew yet how good (say) Homer Simpson would be in his career

uses 3y ago

Weirdly enough, every anecdote I've heard about Pokemon cards is that they are collected far more than played, and that most people who own them don't know how the game works.

munificent 3y ago

I'm surprised that someone hasn't created a sports-themed collectible card game that uses real players for the roster. One of the real magic things about Madden as a videogame is that it has the same teams and players you know, with stats intended to reflect their real-world performance. The result is that you can take all of the sports knowledge you already have in your head from being into football and know that knowledge materially makes you better at this videogame. Seems like you could do the same thing for a collectible card game and make a mint.

mitchdoogle 3y ago
It would be nice if anyone could just do that, but the leagues have exclusive agreements. That's why you don't see anything cool or interesting anymore in major sports video games, as the article mentions
dragonwriter 3y ago
> I'm surprised that someone hasn't created a sports-themed collectible card game that uses real players for the roster. IIRC, they did for all the major (in the US) professional sports at the height of the CCG craze; one example was MLB Showdown: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB_Showdown https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB_Showdown

internet101010 3y ago

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