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> by the time you retire you will be dementia ridden Why? > working in tech limits your understanding of things around you, essentially making you captive in

> by the time you retire you will be dementia ridden Why? > working in tech limits your understanding of things around you, essentially making you captive in a job with no life What?

k99x55 3y ago
Why? Sitting in desk for long periods and commuting by car/train in cycling-hostile countries is very bad for your health.
- pc86 3y ago
  Then imagine how bad doing the same shit for half the money (or less) must be. That's most of the other people in your office. Imagine how bad getting half of that must be but being on your feet all day, or even worse doing real manual labor. That's most of the people outside your office. I'm not saying we can't make things better - we can and should - but the only thing "atrocious" about working in tech is listening to coddled techbros whose first job was an $80k/yr internship talk about how hard it is to be in tech.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    > working in tech is listening to coddled techbros whose first job was an $80k/yr internship I started well before internships and other worker type of practices creeped into the tech world. Modern tech work is the old day factory work.
makeitdouble 3y ago
I don't fully share GP's views, but this took me by surprise. > > by the time you retire you will be dementia ridden > Why? Retirement age is usually set as the age where most people stop being useful to society as active workers. You'll see the argument in abundance in debates on raising the retirement age. You personally might avoid dementia, and you might actually enjoy your retirement time a lot if you had a fortunate life, but by definition most people won't be in the same boat.
- helen___keller 3y ago
  I thought OP was specifically calling out tech as prone to dementia. Maybe I misunderstood. Every “standard” career track that follows “standard” retirement age should be similar.
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    Makes sense! Now, our jobs (IT engineers) is often cited to have higher rate of depression and mental disorders [0], and we sure have our fair share of toxic working culture at large scale [1] and smaller scale (startups). A lot of advice is exchanged openly about desk setup, posture and avoiding carpal tunnel. Which is fine. But my best advice to newcomers would be to look hard for non shitty companies that won't let them burn out in 3 years. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9664232/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9664232/ [1] https://www.dice.com/career-advice/depression-tech-pros-common-study https://www.dice.com/career-advice/depression-tech-pros-comm...

> by the time you retire you will be dementia ridden Why? > working in tech limits your understanding of things around you, essentially making you captive in a job with no life What?

k99x55 3y ago

Why? Sitting in desk for long periods and commuting by car/train in cycling-hostile countries is very bad for your health.

pc86 3y ago
Then imagine how bad doing the same shit for half the money (or less) must be. That's most of the other people in your office. Imagine how bad getting half of that must be but being on your feet all day, or even worse doing real manual labor. That's most of the people outside your office. I'm not saying we can't make things better - we can and should - but the only thing "atrocious" about working in tech is listening to coddled techbros whose first job was an $80k/yr internship talk about how hard it is to be in tech.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  > working in tech is listening to coddled techbros whose first job was an $80k/yr internship I started well before internships and other worker type of practices creeped into the tech world. Modern tech work is the old day factory work.

makeitdouble 3y ago

I don't fully share GP's views, but this took me by surprise. > > by the time you retire you will be dementia ridden > Why? Retirement age is usually set as the age where most people stop being useful to society as active workers. You'll see the argument in abundance in debates on raising the retirement age. You personally might avoid dementia, and you might actually enjoy your retirement time a lot if you had a fortunate life, but by definition most people won't be in the same boat.

helen___keller 3y ago
I thought OP was specifically calling out tech as prone to dementia. Maybe I misunderstood. Every “standard” career track that follows “standard” retirement age should be similar.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Makes sense! Now, our jobs (IT engineers) is often cited to have higher rate of depression and mental disorders [0], and we sure have our fair share of toxic working culture at large scale [1] and smaller scale (startups). A lot of advice is exchanged openly about desk setup, posture and avoiding carpal tunnel. Which is fine. But my best advice to newcomers would be to look hard for non shitty companies that won't let them burn out in 3 years. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9664232/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9664232/ [1] https://www.dice.com/career-advice/depression-tech-pros-common-study https://www.dice.com/career-advice/depression-tech-pros-comm...