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so are they still going to go through with building the hotel? The article cheerfully skips that part. Makes you wonder how any construction at all is possible

so are they still going to go through with building the hotel? The article cheerfully skips that part. Makes you wonder how any construction at all is possible in a 3000-year-old city, probably every inch of it was a part of something significant at some point...

Apocryphon 3y ago
Also just happened in Israel recently: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-megiddo-mosaic-outcry/ https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-megiddo-mosaic-outcr...
VHRanger 3y ago
> Makes you wonder how any construction at all is possible in a 3000-year-old city You build up rather than out
tetris11 3y ago
I have no sources but Turkey suffers from this problem a lot, and the solution is that the construction crews pretend they saw nothing and complete their contract
- User23 3y ago
  This happens in southern California all the time with fossils and such too.
- toyg 3y ago
  Used to be the same in Italy too, I expect it's still the case in many towns and cities - but this is Rome, a stone throw from the Vatican; you can't get away with that sort of behavior in those places anymore. Besides, this is a momentous discovery that will accrue a lot of political capital for the palace owners - precisely because they didn't spoil such treasure. Had it been some random Roman house with a couple of mosaics, things would have probably been a bit different.
- probably_wrong 3y ago
  I've have read comments similar to yours before, and unfortunately I could not find a source. I do, however, remember that those comments were related to that time when digging a tunnel for a high-speed train in Istanbul uncovered important shipwrecks. As the article puts it, "The excavators, attempting to avoid traces of Istanbul’s human history, had ended up finding an extra five thousand years of it". https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-big-dig https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-big-dig
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Now that you mention it, it's no wonder the construction sector in Turkey is known for off the books dealings...
  - VHRanger 3y ago
    That's just the regular corruption in the country. They also make tofu-dreg style buildings and that has nothing to do with historical preservation
jaclaz 3y ago
Yes, they are going to continue the restructuring of the hotel (it is not a new building, it is the historical Palazzo della Rovere/Palazzo dei Penitenzieri), the remains were found in a courtyard, some 5 m under ground level, it wasn't (even before the discovery) intended to make new buildings in that area. The idea is now to document everything, take all statues, columns and smaller manufacts to either one of the various museums in Rome or a new museum in the same palace (which is a very large building, only a part of which is actually the future hotel) and then re-bury the whole thing, keeping at least part of it accessible to visitors. The discovery is recent (july 2023 if I recall correctly) so it will take a few months to have more details about the project.
- drcongo 3y ago
  Thank you, this is exactly the kind of detail I came here to find out.

Apocryphon 3y ago

Also just happened in Israel recently: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-megiddo-mosaic-outcry/ https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/israel-megiddo-mosaic-outcr...

VHRanger 3y ago

> Makes you wonder how any construction at all is possible in a 3000-year-old city You build up rather than out

tetris11 3y ago

I have no sources but Turkey suffers from this problem a lot, and the solution is that the construction crews pretend they saw nothing and complete their contract

User23 3y ago
This happens in southern California all the time with fossils and such too.
toyg 3y ago
Used to be the same in Italy too, I expect it's still the case in many towns and cities - but this is Rome, a stone throw from the Vatican; you can't get away with that sort of behavior in those places anymore. Besides, this is a momentous discovery that will accrue a lot of political capital for the palace owners - precisely because they didn't spoil such treasure. Had it been some random Roman house with a couple of mosaics, things would have probably been a bit different.
probably_wrong 3y ago
I've have read comments similar to yours before, and unfortunately I could not find a source. I do, however, remember that those comments were related to that time when digging a tunnel for a high-speed train in Istanbul uncovered important shipwrecks. As the article puts it, "The excavators, attempting to avoid traces of Istanbul’s human history, had ended up finding an extra five thousand years of it". https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-big-dig https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/31/the-big-dig
MichaelZuo 3y ago
Now that you mention it, it's no wonder the construction sector in Turkey is known for off the books dealings...
- VHRanger 3y ago
  That's just the regular corruption in the country. They also make tofu-dreg style buildings and that has nothing to do with historical preservation

jaclaz 3y ago

Yes, they are going to continue the restructuring of the hotel (it is not a new building, it is the historical Palazzo della Rovere/Palazzo dei Penitenzieri), the remains were found in a courtyard, some 5 m under ground level, it wasn't (even before the discovery) intended to make new buildings in that area. The idea is now to document everything, take all statues, columns and smaller manufacts to either one of the various museums in Rome or a new museum in the same palace (which is a very large building, only a part of which is actually the future hotel) and then re-bury the whole thing, keeping at least part of it accessible to visitors. The discovery is recent (july 2023 if I recall correctly) so it will take a few months to have more details about the project.

drcongo 3y ago
Thank you, this is exactly the kind of detail I came here to find out.