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It's a well written article, good to see on a site like nytimes. I have to also agree with your statement. I have been to the states 3 times, first in 2006 whe
by kamjam 15y ago
It's a well written article, good to see on a site like nytimes.
I have to also agree with your statement. I have been to the states 3 times, first in 2006 where I flew into JFK and was "randomly selected" (woooo, I won!) and then detained for additional questionning for 5 hours.
What did they ask me? Name, DoB, place of birth (all info IN MY PASSPORT ALREADY!), fathers/mothers name, address, what job I did, where I was staying. I have no problems them asking me, but it's the way they treat you. I got put in a waiting room, told to sit down and answer these question in an "application" form. Having filled this in they just told me to sit down. When I got up to ask what was taking so long, "Sir, would you please sit unless you are called". As if the sir makes it polite. Eventually they stamped my passport and I was through.
Flash forward to July 2010, first stop Atlanta. Same deal. I'l also been backpacking for 6 months. That raised an eyebrow when he looked through all the stamps. I hadn't gone to any of those "terrorist" countries though. I was born in Bangladesh and have in the UK since I was a year old. I did get asked though
- Did you have any military training before you left?
- Have you been to country X, Y, Z
- Why did you go to X, Y, Z. Do you not have a job? How did you get time off?
- I even got asked why I left Bangladesh. Really?!? I was a year old mate, didn't really have a say in the matter!
The last time I went was December 2011. That time was a breeze. Flew into Newark, I was already on the system now (I had a change of passport between first 2 visits). I STILL however got briefly questioned in the queue to the counter, I have no idea why, but colour of skin is the only thing...
My brother went to Peru a few years back, he a his girlfriend had a stopover in Miami for a couple hours. Note they were not "entering" America, this was a compulsory refuel stop I guess. He gets hauled in, his girlfriend is sitting outside WTF is going on. He misses his flight due to the delay, they barely get him on the next flight but now his girlfriend has no fight since she was not hauled in. The airline to their credit were good, swapped their flights and his girlfriend took his flight and they gave him another flight yet several hours later. The most ignorant part of this though, when questioned "where were you born" my brother said "London, UK", "But your passport says Kingston", "Yes, Kingston Upon Thames, near London, UK", "Well the only Kingston I know if Kingston, Jamaica". This delayed things a bit. Yes, the world is bigger than that corner of the earth!
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But the people their are some of the friendliest and hospitable people I have met, and I've travelled around a fair bit!
- anamax 15y ago> What did they ask me? Name, DoB, place of birth (all info IN MY PASSPORT ALREADY!), They ask because folks using false papers occasionally don't know what their papers say.
- kamjam 15y agoThey didn't ask me this face to face, they asked me to write it down after they had told me to sit down. If this was the case, I would have just copied it from my documents... yes, they had taken my passport, but I would have a photocopy in case it got lost right....?
- saryant 15y agoIt's worth noting that there's no such thing as not entering the US on a route like that with two exceptions. The US doesn't have transit on international itineraries through a US airport except in the cases of Tahiti-LAX-Paris on Air France and Auckland-LAX-London on Air New Zealand. Any other transit between two international destinations through a US airport requires entering the US just like any other visit.
- kamjam 15y agoUnfortunately he didn't know that and being from the UK did not think he would have any issues with immigration in any country in the world, least of all the US! I thought transit was different from entering a country for a stay, for example I know that people from most countries need a visa to visit India, but if you are transiting through then you are just waved through. Same with most other countries as far as I am aware... Regardless, he is now not keen on visiting US in any circumstance and would rather pay more/take a longer flight than transit through the US.
- kbutler 15y agoMy sister-in-law was re-entering the US from Canada with her husband. She looks very different from her awful passport photo, and the border agent spent some time quizzing her about facts on her passport, even asking leading questions with incorrect information: "And you were born in July 1975" "Yes... no! 1976!"