I would say with both Rojava and Zapatistas we see very oppressed minorities who were fighting for self determination, I think that's one of of the reasons they

I would say with both Rojava and Zapatistas we see very oppressed minorities who were fighting for self determination, I think that's one of of the reasons they are more interested in these horizontal structures. Revolutionary Catalonia was somewhat similar in their identity being questioned by Spanish conservatives. People in urban areas usually consider themselves privileged compared to inhabitants of rural areas so they are less interested in these modes of social organisation, even if they are usually still oppressed by capitalist mode of production as workers.