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> Communism is stateless, classless and moneyless society so you can ask yourself a question. Communism is a specific historic movement. As Nietzsche famously

> Communism is stateless, classless and moneyless society so you can ask yourself a question. Communism is a specific historic movement. As Nietzsche famously said, “all ideas, in which a whole process is promiscuously comprehended, elude definition; it is only that which has no history, which can be defined.” It also rhymes nicely with what Marx said, “Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.” > What you call Communism is actually ideology called Marxism-Leninism Well, why what you call it is how it’s actually called and what someone else calls it is wrong? Language is arbitrary. I think it is a purely political question. Just like deciding whether to define racism as racial prejudice or as racial prejudice with power. It’s all about rhetoric, not about what’s something “actually called”.

TotalCrackpot 3y ago
Ok, so can you call it how I want from now, ok? Why am I supposed to submit to your newspeak that is just to attack all leftist as authoritarians and to ommit anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist movements? Imprecise vocabulary is great tool for authoritarian, that's why I write about these other meanings and ideologies.
- LudwigNagasena 3y ago
  > Why am I supposed to submit to your newspeak that is just to attack all leftist as authoritarians and to ommit anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist movements? Well, it is simply a fact that in public discourse both left and right mainly associate communism with Marx and Lenin because of the early influence of Marx on communist movements and of later Bolshevization of the Comintern in 1920s. I don’t see what is newspeak-y about it, it is a natural linguistic and cultural development. > Imprecise vocabulary is great tool for authoritarian, that's why I write about these other meanings and ideologies. Yeah, that’s why I always look at “anarchists” with suspicion. They seem to consistently support measures that empower the government.

TotalCrackpot 3y ago

Ok, so can you call it how I want from now, ok? Why am I supposed to submit to your newspeak that is just to attack all leftist as authoritarians and to ommit anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist movements? Imprecise vocabulary is great tool for authoritarian, that's why I write about these other meanings and ideologies.

LudwigNagasena 3y ago
> Why am I supposed to submit to your newspeak that is just to attack all leftist as authoritarians and to ommit anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist movements? Well, it is simply a fact that in public discourse both left and right mainly associate communism with Marx and Lenin because of the early influence of Marx on communist movements and of later Bolshevization of the Comintern in 1920s. I don’t see what is newspeak-y about it, it is a natural linguistic and cultural development. > Imprecise vocabulary is great tool for authoritarian, that's why I write about these other meanings and ideologies. Yeah, that’s why I always look at “anarchists” with suspicion. They seem to consistently support measures that empower the government.