4 ms·

[flagged]

by mutant_glofish 3y ago

[flagged]

renewiltord 3y ago
Well, unless surrogacymumbai.com is where we post right-wing news from, that's hardly a problem, eh?
- dang 3y ago
  I posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37131212 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37131212 before noticing that you'd already made the same argument - sorry! But I have to leave it up because penispowerworldwide.com makes me laugh.
  - account42 3y ago
    Finally pens are no longer constrained to just one island.
  - pc86 3y ago
    I like to think this is the parent company for Prestige Worldwide.
afavour 3y ago
You don’t have to apply both sides logic to everything in life.
pgeorgi 3y ago
That's what "random 10 out of 67k sites" gives you. Your set was cherry-picked, dang's wasn't. That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now?
- mutant_glofish 3y ago
  > Your set was cherry-picked Not exactly cherry-picked, these were from things I submitted myself and noticed that were shadow flagged. > That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now? No, I'd be happy when archive.is, Federalist and the rest of the non-spammy ones are unbanned. (Also, even if "balanced" censorship was the desired goal, having a single unreliable left-wing source banned vs a ton of right-wing ones doesn't really achieve that.)
  - pgeorgi 3y ago
    > Not exactly cherry-picked, these were from things I submitted myself and noticed that were shadow flagged. Definitely not random, in any case. > Also, even if "balanced" censorship was the desired goal, Nobody claimed that. You merely stated that "I don't see a single left-wing new source in there." and I offered a counter-point. > having one left-wing source vs a ton of right-wing one doesn't achieve that I didn't do an exhaustive search for "left-wing domains" that are banned to present you a complete list, this was attempt 1 of 1. Following your model, I could claim that 100% of left-wing domains are banned, but I won't.
  - pavlov 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - xcdzvyn 3y ago
    Have you considered that may speak more to your biases than the site's? How many far left-wing news sites do you regular?
  - shagie 3y ago
    Turn on show dead, browse https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and take the affirmative community moderation steps of vouching for those that are good. Archive.is shouldn't ever need to be the primary site. Post a link to the original and then a comment to the archive site if there's the possibility of take down or issues with paywalls. It is likely that people were using archive.is for trying to avoid posting the original domain and masking the content that it presented.
dang 3y ago
By that logic, the fact that penispowerworldwide.com is banned on HN* means we're biased against your politics. Of the 67k sites banned on HN I would guess that fewer than 0.1% are "news sources", left- or right- or any wing. Why would you expect them to show up in a random sample of 10? * which it is! I've unkilled https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1236054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1236054 for the occasion.
sph 3y ago
[flagged]

[flagged]

renewiltord 3y ago

Well, unless surrogacymumbai.com is where we post right-wing news from, that's hardly a problem, eh?

dang 3y ago
I posted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37131212 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37131212 before noticing that you'd already made the same argument - sorry! But I have to leave it up because penispowerworldwide.com makes me laugh.
- account42 3y ago
  Finally pens are no longer constrained to just one island.
- pc86 3y ago
  I like to think this is the parent company for Prestige Worldwide.

afavour 3y ago

You don’t have to apply both sides logic to everything in life.

pgeorgi 3y ago

That's what "random 10 out of 67k sites" gives you. Your set was cherry-picked, dang's wasn't. That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now?

mutant_glofish 3y ago
> Your set was cherry-picked Not exactly cherry-picked, these were from things I submitted myself and noticed that were shadow flagged. > That said, dailykos.com seems to be banned. Happy now? No, I'd be happy when archive.is, Federalist and the rest of the non-spammy ones are unbanned. (Also, even if "balanced" censorship was the desired goal, having a single unreliable left-wing source banned vs a ton of right-wing ones doesn't really achieve that.)
- pgeorgi 3y ago
  > Not exactly cherry-picked, these were from things I submitted myself and noticed that were shadow flagged. Definitely not random, in any case. > Also, even if "balanced" censorship was the desired goal, Nobody claimed that. You merely stated that "I don't see a single left-wing new source in there." and I offered a counter-point. > having one left-wing source vs a ton of right-wing one doesn't achieve that I didn't do an exhaustive search for "left-wing domains" that are banned to present you a complete list, this was attempt 1 of 1. Following your model, I could claim that 100% of left-wing domains are banned, but I won't.
- pavlov 3y ago
  [flagged]
- xcdzvyn 3y ago
  Have you considered that may speak more to your biases than the site's? How many far left-wing news sites do you regular?
- shagie 3y ago
  Turn on show dead, browse https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest and take the affirmative community moderation steps of vouching for those that are good. Archive.is shouldn't ever need to be the primary site. Post a link to the original and then a comment to the archive site if there's the possibility of take down or issues with paywalls. It is likely that people were using archive.is for trying to avoid posting the original domain and masking the content that it presented.

dang 3y ago

By that logic, the fact that penispowerworldwide.com is banned on HN* means we're biased against your politics. Of the 67k sites banned on HN I would guess that fewer than 0.1% are "news sources", left- or right- or any wing. Why would you expect them to show up in a random sample of 10? * which it is! I've unkilled https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1236054 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1236054 for the occasion.

sph 3y ago

[flagged]