For the five year old: is that not the point? Adults can, and do, things that are against their long term interests. Yet they have to go to adults to intercede,

For the five year old: is that not the point? Adults can, and do, things that are against their long term interests. Yet they have to go to adults to intercede, both because they have little autonomy and because they need someone to assess if it is against their long term interests. Cases like this give them an opportunity to argue their position. It's not as though they are actually making the decisions.