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We sure are turning chinese fast. In the end, does it really matter what ideology underpins the censorship? Users say to themselves, "I have to be really carefu

We sure are turning chinese fast. In the end, does it really matter what ideology underpins the censorship? Users say to themselves, "I have to be really careful not to even appear like I'm doing something 'bad' on the internet or I could lose my access or worse." It doesn't matter where you got on the train or why, once it pulls into that last station, you're done.

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ttt_ 15y ago
It seems to me that this whole endeavor is just a doorway for more control/censorship a couple of years from now. Once the technology is set up and the practice is sanctioned, more and more 'bad practices' will start being policed and punished.
- noonespecial 15y ago
  I don't believe that that's intentional. If if was that might be better because we might have a chance at stopping it. Its an emergent behavior. The tighter control, even enacted for "good" reasons now, attracts the type that use it for evil later. It sucks because you can't fight the evil up front. You sometimes have to fight the good intentions now to prevent the evil later. That's an impossible political sell.
  - ttt_ 15y ago
    >> The tighter control, even enacted for "good" reasons now, attracts the type that use it for evil later. Are you so sure that those good reasons aren't conceived by ill intented guys knowing what you have just described: It sucks because you can't fight the evil up front. More commonly refered to as wolf in sheep's clothing. Big power players are not naive.
  - intended 15y ago
    Unfortunately its an essential political sell. In essence you've called out the fact that its the slippery slope. In this case though its intentional. These structures affect the power structures, so the power structure will react to it in order to either minimize/control/remove its effect. Sadly you have to play ball in a manner that shows that the power on the other end (the anti RIAA portion of the spectrum) has the ability to create/co-ordinate voters. The RIAA supports its cause by spending tonnes of money to 'educate' legislators. If you can influence their voting base though, that education is pointless, since voting power is far more important.

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ttt_ 15y ago

It seems to me that this whole endeavor is just a doorway for more control/censorship a couple of years from now. Once the technology is set up and the practice is sanctioned, more and more 'bad practices' will start being policed and punished.

noonespecial 15y ago
I don't believe that that's intentional. If if was that might be better because we might have a chance at stopping it. Its an emergent behavior. The tighter control, even enacted for "good" reasons now, attracts the type that use it for evil later. It sucks because you can't fight the evil up front. You sometimes have to fight the good intentions now to prevent the evil later. That's an impossible political sell.
- ttt_ 15y ago
  >> The tighter control, even enacted for "good" reasons now, attracts the type that use it for evil later. Are you so sure that those good reasons aren't conceived by ill intented guys knowing what you have just described: It sucks because you can't fight the evil up front. More commonly refered to as wolf in sheep's clothing. Big power players are not naive.
- intended 15y ago
  Unfortunately its an essential political sell. In essence you've called out the fact that its the slippery slope. In this case though its intentional. These structures affect the power structures, so the power structure will react to it in order to either minimize/control/remove its effect. Sadly you have to play ball in a manner that shows that the power on the other end (the anti RIAA portion of the spectrum) has the ability to create/co-ordinate voters. The RIAA supports its cause by spending tonnes of money to 'educate' legislators. If you can influence their voting base though, that education is pointless, since voting power is far more important.