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whats the alternative? Trump? I'll take the sleepy senior over the unstable senior any day. Besides its not like the president sets the economic plans these day

whats the alternative? Trump? I'll take the sleepy senior over the unstable senior any day. Besides its not like the president sets the economic plans these days. Their only influence is on government spending. Fed controls the interest rate which affects a broader segment of the economy.

anon291 3y ago
Can you name what was so volatile under Trump? We had no new wars under Trump. No new military engagements. We were planning withdrawals. The economy was doing fine. People say things were volatile under Trump, but I have found that this is only true if you're addicted to the 24/7 news cycle. For most American's day to day, life under Trump was just as boring as life under Biden / Obama / Bush / etc. I mean.. when Trump was in office, things were good. My local grocery store couldn't even find enough workers they were hiring disabled people (which is great... everyone deserves the ability to make a living). Now everything is expensive and people seem unhappy; not to mention new military engagements in Europe of all places.
- AnimalMuppet 3y ago
  What was so volatile? American democracy. Constitutional law. The economy matters, but some things matter more.
  - anon291 3y ago
    In what way was constitutional law volatile during Trump's term?
    - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
      Trying to overturn the results of the election via fake electors, "find the votes" in Georgia, pressuring the Arizona governor, pressuring Pence to accept the fake electors...
      - anon291 3y ago
        Sure, but what about during his term in office? IIRC, the claims that his term was volatile started in 2016 without grounds.
        AnimalMuppet 3y ago
        That was during his term in office!
        anon291 3y ago
        Sure, at the end, but I heard the same claims of volatility during the entirety of his term. It's not like the claim of volatility suddenly appeared after the Jan 6 stuff.
      - pauldenton 3y ago
        As opposed to when The Resistance in 2016 tried to overthrow the election results via faithless electors. Stacey Abrams is an "election denier" to this day. As are many Democrats when you ask them about the results of the Bush v. Gore election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016... On December 14, the Unite For America campaign released a video[36] published on YouTube and other media addressed directly to Republican electors urging that each of them individually, plus 36 of their colleagues (at least 37 Republican electors in total), vote for a Republican other than Donald Trump for President. The video featured numerous public figures,[37] including Debra Messing, Martin Sheen, and Bob Odenkirk, urging Republican electors to prevent a Trump presidency, expressing several times the message: "I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton". In electing an alternative Republican, the featured speakers ask the elector to become an "American hero" by using the elector's constitutional "authority" to give "service and patriotism to the American people" through a vote of "conscience."[36] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-moore-appeals-gop-electors-rogue-pay-state/story?id=44276931 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-moore-appeals-gop-el...

anon291 3y ago

Can you name what was so volatile under Trump? We had no new wars under Trump. No new military engagements. We were planning withdrawals. The economy was doing fine. People say things were volatile under Trump, but I have found that this is only true if you're addicted to the 24/7 news cycle. For most American's day to day, life under Trump was just as boring as life under Biden / Obama / Bush / etc. I mean.. when Trump was in office, things were good. My local grocery store couldn't even find enough workers they were hiring disabled people (which is great... everyone deserves the ability to make a living). Now everything is expensive and people seem unhappy; not to mention new military engagements in Europe of all places.

AnimalMuppet 3y ago
What was so volatile? American democracy. Constitutional law. The economy matters, but some things matter more.
- anon291 3y ago
  In what way was constitutional law volatile during Trump's term?
  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    Trying to overturn the results of the election via fake electors, "find the votes" in Georgia, pressuring the Arizona governor, pressuring Pence to accept the fake electors...
    - anon291 3y ago
      Sure, but what about during his term in office? IIRC, the claims that his term was volatile started in 2016 without grounds.
      - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
        That was during his term in office!
        anon291 3y ago
        Sure, at the end, but I heard the same claims of volatility during the entirety of his term. It's not like the claim of volatility suddenly appeared after the Jan 6 stuff.
    - pauldenton 3y ago
      As opposed to when The Resistance in 2016 tried to overthrow the election results via faithless electors. Stacey Abrams is an "election denier" to this day. As are many Democrats when you ask them about the results of the Bush v. Gore election. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016... On December 14, the Unite For America campaign released a video[36] published on YouTube and other media addressed directly to Republican electors urging that each of them individually, plus 36 of their colleagues (at least 37 Republican electors in total), vote for a Republican other than Donald Trump for President. The video featured numerous public figures,[37] including Debra Messing, Martin Sheen, and Bob Odenkirk, urging Republican electors to prevent a Trump presidency, expressing several times the message: "I'm not asking you to vote for Hillary Clinton". In electing an alternative Republican, the featured speakers ask the elector to become an "American hero" by using the elector's constitutional "authority" to give "service and patriotism to the American people" through a vote of "conscience."[36] https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-moore-appeals-gop-electors-rogue-pay-state/story?id=44276931 https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-moore-appeals-gop-el...