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This would raise our energy bill by 25%. It’s already absurd as it is.

swarnie 3y ago
In reality what do you pay for energy? a 25% hike sounds blissful compared to northern Europe last year. Just checking this isn't another situation where gas went from 8c/l to 11c/l and every lost their minds.
- Xorakios 3y ago
  73cents/kwh in Palm Springs, CA is very common for peak pricing
- throwaway5959 3y ago
  Hundreds of dollars a month for a 2 br condo.
- buzer 3y ago
  Tier 1 rate for me is currently about $0.35/kwh and tier 2 about $0.41/kwh from PG&E. They don't directly tell you the transmission cost, but about $0.145/kwh comes from generation. For my 1 br apartment living alone the total bill has been about $100-$150 but can jump to up to $250 during summer months. Sounds like this will almost double my costs for most of the year.
bonestamp2 3y ago
For most months, this would raise my bill by 50%. Easy solution though, I simply won't tell my electric company what my income is. Surely the government won't hand over this info, right? Right?
- kinghajj 3y ago
  I think their plan is to charge the highest fee by default, unless forms to validate placement at a lower fee tier is submitted.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  > Easy solution though, I simply won't tell my electric company what my income is. Surely the government won't hand over this info, right? Right? I don't know about PG&E specifically, but Equifax et al. have subsidiaries like The Work Number to get your income from employers and share it with whoever asks. The government isn't handing over anything-- even they go through Equifax when verifying income for food stamp eligibility. The threat is real.
systemvoltage 3y ago
They want you to be state employed and get rid of private property eventually. They want you to not have any children.
vladslav 3y ago
Is there a way to fight it? I sent a message to our state reps. (Gov. Newsom, Sen. Becker and Assembly member Berman) but can't think of anything else.

In reality what do you pay for energy? a 25% hike sounds blissful compared to northern Europe last year. Just checking this isn't another situation where gas went from 8c/l to 11c/l and every lost their minds.

Xorakios 3y ago
73cents/kwh in Palm Springs, CA is very common for peak pricing
throwaway5959 3y ago
Hundreds of dollars a month for a 2 br condo.
buzer 3y ago
Tier 1 rate for me is currently about $0.35/kwh and tier 2 about $0.41/kwh from PG&E. They don't directly tell you the transmission cost, but about $0.145/kwh comes from generation. For my 1 br apartment living alone the total bill has been about $100-$150 but can jump to up to $250 during summer months. Sounds like this will almost double my costs for most of the year.

bonestamp2 3y ago

For most months, this would raise my bill by 50%. Easy solution though, I simply won't tell my electric company what my income is. Surely the government won't hand over this info, right? Right?

kinghajj 3y ago
I think their plan is to charge the highest fee by default, unless forms to validate placement at a lower fee tier is submitted.
jstarfish 3y ago
> Easy solution though, I simply won't tell my electric company what my income is. Surely the government won't hand over this info, right? Right? I don't know about PG&E specifically, but Equifax et al. have subsidiaries like The Work Number to get your income from employers and share it with whoever asks. The government isn't handing over anything-- even they go through Equifax when verifying income for food stamp eligibility. The threat is real.

systemvoltage 3y ago

They want you to be state employed and get rid of private property eventually. They want you to not have any children.

vladslav 3y ago

Is there a way to fight it? I sent a message to our state reps. (Gov. Newsom, Sen. Becker and Assembly member Berman) but can't think of anything else.