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> 1) Detecting piracy is resource intensive People who torrent 24/7 just because they can are also resource intensive. I think there might be a real incentive

> 1) Detecting piracy is resource intensive People who torrent 24/7 just because they can are also resource intensive. I think there might be a real incentive to kick Joe Leecher out of one's customer base and keep people who only check their email.

gcb 15y ago
but no one would pay $120/mo for 328MBPS DSL⁕ only for checking email. So there's still incentive to make P2P seems a possibility. ⁕ only 0.0001% guaranteed
- ctide 15y ago
  Exactly this. I pay Comcast $200 / mo for 105mbit. In part because it's retardedly fast (I do get the advertised speed generally,) and in part because I don't ever want to think about bandwidth limits or any of the other measures they enforce on people who aren't shoveling over forkloads of cash. If either of those things change, I immediately downgrade.
  - thereallurch 15y ago
    Ouch, Charter only charges $82.99 a month (with modem rental) for 100Mbps. Around the same time they introduced 100Mbps service, they introduced bandwidth caps. (500 gb/month for 100mbit service). Bandwidth caps @charter are a 3 strike policy. I can get charter business @~$200 a month which is 100mbit service (no download cap, guaranteed uptime). Are you on some sort of comcast business plan?
    - ctide 15y ago
      No, it's their highest bandwidth residential plan. Technically, I still have bandwidth caps (http://imageshar.es/4f675654998b758611000b60 http://imageshar.es/4f675654998b758611000b60) but they don't enforce them.
ttt_ 15y ago
I don't know how it's been going in the US, but I'm pretty used to seeing ISPs advertise their high-bandwith services towards downloading music, video and online gaming. They want to get the heavy users to pay a lot and then they punish them for being heavy users (not entering the whole piracy debate, just that they consume loads of bandwith - that they pay for).
ceph_ 15y ago
It's a myth that Off-peak network usage is somehow a burden on landline ISPs. The only time they would be contributing to congestion and slowdown is at peak. But then again everyone is, and they're not some extra burden.

gcb 15y ago

but no one would pay $120/mo for 328MBPS DSL⁕ only for checking email. So there's still incentive to make P2P seems a possibility. ⁕ only 0.0001% guaranteed

ctide 15y ago
Exactly this. I pay Comcast $200 / mo for 105mbit. In part because it's retardedly fast (I do get the advertised speed generally,) and in part because I don't ever want to think about bandwidth limits or any of the other measures they enforce on people who aren't shoveling over forkloads of cash. If either of those things change, I immediately downgrade.
- thereallurch 15y ago
  Ouch, Charter only charges $82.99 a month (with modem rental) for 100Mbps. Around the same time they introduced 100Mbps service, they introduced bandwidth caps. (500 gb/month for 100mbit service). Bandwidth caps @charter are a 3 strike policy. I can get charter business @~$200 a month which is 100mbit service (no download cap, guaranteed uptime). Are you on some sort of comcast business plan?
  - ctide 15y ago
    No, it's their highest bandwidth residential plan. Technically, I still have bandwidth caps (http://imageshar.es/4f675654998b758611000b60 http://imageshar.es/4f675654998b758611000b60) but they don't enforce them.

ttt_ 15y ago

I don't know how it's been going in the US, but I'm pretty used to seeing ISPs advertise their high-bandwith services towards downloading music, video and online gaming. They want to get the heavy users to pay a lot and then they punish them for being heavy users (not entering the whole piracy debate, just that they consume loads of bandwith - that they pay for).

ceph_ 15y ago

It's a myth that Off-peak network usage is somehow a burden on landline ISPs. The only time they would be contributing to congestion and slowdown is at peak. But then again everyone is, and they're not some extra burden.