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Yet every interview I have been to has had several coding tests, take homes and technical interviews. Your code is reviewed, and someone decides after 6 months

Yet every interview I have been to has had several coding tests, take homes and technical interviews. Your code is reviewed, and someone decides after 6 months if you are up to task. As an employee you can’t find an external solution and resell it with some smooth talking for double the price and go play golf. Rather you will be subjected to agile practices and if unlucky logging your hours against tickets. Most coders are actually paid to code. (trying to do non coding work beneficial to the business is actually a struggle unless it is in your assigned role!)

swalsh 3y ago
People don't pay for welding, they pay for buildings, cars etc... but they also are going to be real disappointed if the welds fail.
- BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
  welding needs to be repeated for every building code is written once, then everybody can copy it to make use of it why is this such a huge problem? what to do about it? I have a lot of opinions around this but it doesn't matter
  - pdimitar 3y ago
    Code is written once? Can't be farther from the truth. Code has to be iterated on, quite often too.
    - BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
      to write is different from to rewrite but c'mon. I'm referring to the fact that code can be made into libraries, or APIs if you're so keen on collecting rent and then as a digital asset, the library can be copied and distributed, hence code can be written once (one team writes it) then everybody else can use it with no additional cost, (again, unless you actually want to tax/collect-rent from other people, then you make up this additional cost)
      - pdimitar 3y ago
        > to write is different from to rewrite Only if you use dictionary meanings of words. Otherwise it really is not different. 99.99% of all meaningful code is not gotten right on the first try. As said above, you have to iterate on it. > I'm referring to the fact that code can be made into libraries, or APIs if you're so keen on collecting rent Name one library -- that is NOT just a network client for a paid SaaS service -- and then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make. And even if you find one, they are a vanishingly small, undetectable, minority.
        BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
        they're an endangered species, so to say... you should learn about systems software... they may be 'vanishingly small' but they're there in the foundations of the entire computing stack. done once, a long time ago, and used by all ever since. just the most basics: but there are (sadly were) more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glibc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glibc
        pdimitar 3y ago
        And they get updated all the time actually, what's your point? They're not written in stone. They still change and evolve.
        BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
        my point is that I refuse to adjust my expectations to a technological environment in which we are ok with having to pay per API call to use software. I reject a future in which all software works as a subscription based service; this is just more taxes (in principle) I see society going down this path and there are no good reasons for this at all (it is just double then triple then mutliplefold taxation on activity; and what for? so that few lucky persons collect rent forever?).
        pdimitar 3y ago
- quickthrower2 3y ago
  As a welder, people pay YOU to weld. That is what solve their immediate problem. Sure end consumers buy, “their lost childhood” “the feeling of belonging” and “being a superhero” projected onto various objects of desire. But people can think logically too! I need a sparky. Yes because I am addicted to twitter, and have no bush survival skills either.
- jslatinsky 3y ago
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swalsh 3y ago

People don't pay for welding, they pay for buildings, cars etc... but they also are going to be real disappointed if the welds fail.

BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
welding needs to be repeated for every building code is written once, then everybody can copy it to make use of it why is this such a huge problem? what to do about it? I have a lot of opinions around this but it doesn't matter
- pdimitar 3y ago
  Code is written once? Can't be farther from the truth. Code has to be iterated on, quite often too.
  - BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
    to write is different from to rewrite but c'mon. I'm referring to the fact that code can be made into libraries, or APIs if you're so keen on collecting rent and then as a digital asset, the library can be copied and distributed, hence code can be written once (one team writes it) then everybody else can use it with no additional cost, (again, unless you actually want to tax/collect-rent from other people, then you make up this additional cost)
    - pdimitar 3y ago
      > to write is different from to rewrite Only if you use dictionary meanings of words. Otherwise it really is not different. 99.99% of all meaningful code is not gotten right on the first try. As said above, you have to iterate on it. > I'm referring to the fact that code can be made into libraries, or APIs if you're so keen on collecting rent Name one library -- that is NOT just a network client for a paid SaaS service -- and then maybe I'll understand what point you're trying to make. And even if you find one, they are a vanishingly small, undetectable, minority.
      - BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
        they're an endangered species, so to say... you should learn about systems software... they may be 'vanishingly small' but they're there in the foundations of the entire computing stack. done once, a long time ago, and used by all ever since. just the most basics: but there are (sadly were) more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glibc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glibc
        pdimitar 3y ago
        And they get updated all the time actually, what's your point? They're not written in stone. They still change and evolve.
        BSEdlMMldESB 3y ago
        my point is that I refuse to adjust my expectations to a technological environment in which we are ok with having to pay per API call to use software. I reject a future in which all software works as a subscription based service; this is just more taxes (in principle) I see society going down this path and there are no good reasons for this at all (it is just double then triple then mutliplefold taxation on activity; and what for? so that few lucky persons collect rent forever?).
        pdimitar 3y ago
quickthrower2 3y ago
As a welder, people pay YOU to weld. That is what solve their immediate problem. Sure end consumers buy, “their lost childhood” “the feeling of belonging” and “being a superhero” projected onto various objects of desire. But people can think logically too! I need a sparky. Yes because I am addicted to twitter, and have no bush survival skills either.
jslatinsky 3y ago
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