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One thing I’ve realized lately is that scarcity is actually a benefit of ipv4, much in the way of the maximum amount of bitcoins theoretically increases their v

One thing I’ve realized lately is that scarcity is actually a benefit of ipv4, much in the way of the maximum amount of bitcoins theoretically increases their value. Ipv4 addresses are being ranked by their reputation. This is a good thing, at least right now, as it makes scammers/spammers/hackers/ddosers lives more expensive to acquire fresh addresses. This can only exist when a shortage exists.

baq 3y ago
in ipv6 you can (should) grade whole subnets as end customers typically get whole /64s.
- alyandon 3y ago
  Not always though. Lower end VPS providers seem to be moving towards placing you on a shared /64. I run into issues on a particular Digital Ocean instance of mine where my IPv6 allocation is something like a /112 and it gets swept up in bans on the parent /64 because of other's bad behavior. Then you have other providers like Vultr that do weird things like not statically route your /64 prefix to your instance which kind of defeats the entire point of having a /64.
  - jandrese 3y ago
    Digital Ocean has been in the wrong with their IPv6 allocation since the day the implemented it. One of the rules of IPv6 is never allocate less than a /64. Unfortunately their network admins don't seem to care.
- tsimionescu 3y ago
  There's still 2^64 /64 IPv6 subnets, and only 2^32 IPv4 addresses in total, of which huge swaths aren't even used.
justsomehnguy 3y ago
"People are DUI without a driver license, so let's make the driver license cost $$$$ for every Average Joe."
meragrin_ 3y ago
> This is a good thing, at least right now, as it makes scammers/spammers/hackers/ddosers lives more expensive to acquire fresh addresses. This can only exist when a shortage exists. No it is not. More and more people share addresses so more people would be affected and it would just move the problem elsewhere.
- backendanon 3y ago
  I can guarantee you no one shares my server's IPv4.
  - kccqzy 3y ago
    And this is privilege and entitlement. You know that if everyone in the world wants to have a dedicated, unshared IPv4, it is mathematically impossible. Bragging about it is showing your privilege and sense of entitlement. What makes you special that you deserve a dedicated IPv4?

baq 3y ago

in ipv6 you can (should) grade whole subnets as end customers typically get whole /64s.

alyandon 3y ago
Not always though. Lower end VPS providers seem to be moving towards placing you on a shared /64. I run into issues on a particular Digital Ocean instance of mine where my IPv6 allocation is something like a /112 and it gets swept up in bans on the parent /64 because of other's bad behavior. Then you have other providers like Vultr that do weird things like not statically route your /64 prefix to your instance which kind of defeats the entire point of having a /64.
- jandrese 3y ago
  Digital Ocean has been in the wrong with their IPv6 allocation since the day the implemented it. One of the rules of IPv6 is never allocate less than a /64. Unfortunately their network admins don't seem to care.
tsimionescu 3y ago
There's still 2^64 /64 IPv6 subnets, and only 2^32 IPv4 addresses in total, of which huge swaths aren't even used.

justsomehnguy 3y ago

"People are DUI without a driver license, so let's make the driver license cost $$$$ for every Average Joe."

meragrin_ 3y ago

> This is a good thing, at least right now, as it makes scammers/spammers/hackers/ddosers lives more expensive to acquire fresh addresses. This can only exist when a shortage exists. No it is not. More and more people share addresses so more people would be affected and it would just move the problem elsewhere.

backendanon 3y ago
I can guarantee you no one shares my server's IPv4.
- kccqzy 3y ago
  And this is privilege and entitlement. You know that if everyone in the world wants to have a dedicated, unshared IPv4, it is mathematically impossible. Bragging about it is showing your privilege and sense of entitlement. What makes you special that you deserve a dedicated IPv4?