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Are the Libertarians and the republicans the same party?

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
Lot of crossover. Libertarians typically don't get a candidate into the election, so they end up voting Republican. In the Venn Diagram, Libertarians are a sub-set of Republicans. Republican views are also administration dependent. If there is a Democratic President then Republicans think government is evil, socialist and place a high value on reducing the debt, reducing the size of government. But if a Republican is president, then debt no longer matters, increasing spending on defense, walls, and having a 'strong government of law and order' is the priority. So debt is ok, and the bigger the gov the better. It's a bit schizophrenic.
- constantcrying 3y ago
  Seems not that relevant to the subject.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    You asked? So it was relevant as an answer to the question. But, agree, not relevant to the original story. Just a little. The original story was about 'elites'. In the US, any conversation on that subject gets wrapped up in different opinions on who the 'elite's are, and if they are Socialist. One side thinks the 'elite's are Socialist, the other side think the 'elite's are corporate CEO's. This thread digressed to the discussion of Socialism (not the academic definition), and I was just following along with that tangent.
    - constantcrying 3y ago
      >You asked? About the republicans calling taxation socialism. Zero evidence of that.
      - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        US Libertarians are against taxation and government They are Republicans. https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes/ https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes/ https://www.lp.org/news-press-releases-libertarian-party-don https://www.lp.org/news-press-releases-libertarian-party-don... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_theft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_theft
        constantcrying 3y ago
        >They are Republicans. Then it should be trvial to link to a republucan publication/website/statemrent claiming the same thing. To be honest I think you are just making stuff up.
        FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        Not my job to educate. I started searching and had dozen hits, and was like "wait, why do I have to search for this person, this is a troll at this point". It has been in debates, articles, arguments. Like non-stop for 6 years. It was in the Republican debates. You go look it up. Seems like being extra pedantic now , "well, they didn't mean it, those other links don't count, show me the official Republican documentation".

Lot of crossover. Libertarians typically don't get a candidate into the election, so they end up voting Republican. In the Venn Diagram, Libertarians are a sub-set of Republicans. Republican views are also administration dependent. If there is a Democratic President then Republicans think government is evil, socialist and place a high value on reducing the debt, reducing the size of government. But if a Republican is president, then debt no longer matters, increasing spending on defense, walls, and having a 'strong government of law and order' is the priority. So debt is ok, and the bigger the gov the better. It's a bit schizophrenic.

constantcrying 3y ago
Seems not that relevant to the subject.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  You asked? So it was relevant as an answer to the question. But, agree, not relevant to the original story. Just a little. The original story was about 'elites'. In the US, any conversation on that subject gets wrapped up in different opinions on who the 'elite's are, and if they are Socialist. One side thinks the 'elite's are Socialist, the other side think the 'elite's are corporate CEO's. This thread digressed to the discussion of Socialism (not the academic definition), and I was just following along with that tangent.
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    >You asked? About the republicans calling taxation socialism. Zero evidence of that.
    - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      US Libertarians are against taxation and government They are Republicans. https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes/ https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes/ https://www.lp.org/news-press-releases-libertarian-party-don https://www.lp.org/news-press-releases-libertarian-party-don... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_theft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_theft
      - constantcrying 3y ago
        >They are Republicans. Then it should be trvial to link to a republucan publication/website/statemrent claiming the same thing. To be honest I think you are just making stuff up.
        FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        Not my job to educate. I started searching and had dozen hits, and was like "wait, why do I have to search for this person, this is a troll at this point". It has been in debates, articles, arguments. Like non-stop for 6 years. It was in the Republican debates. You go look it up. Seems like being extra pedantic now , "well, they didn't mean it, those other links don't count, show me the official Republican documentation".