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Small Kansas newspaper says co-owner, 98, collapsed and died after police raid

141 points by uptown 3y ago

celtoid 3y ago
CBS neglects to mention that the editor of the paper also said that Marion Police Chief Gideon Cody was also being investigated by the paper for claims of sexual harassment. "EM: So the backstory that we haven't told, because we don't wanna get in trouble, is that we've been investigating the police chief [Gideon Cody]. When he was named Chief just two months ago, we got an outpouring of calls from his former co-workers making a wide array of allegations against him saying that he was about to be demoted at his previous job and that he retired to avoid demotion and punishment over sexual misconduct charges and other things. We had half a dozen or more different anonymous sources calling in about that. Well, we never ran that because we never could get any of them to go on the record, and we never could get his personnel file. But the allegations—including the identities of who made the allegations—were on one of the computers that got seized. I may be paranoid that this has anything to do with it, but when people come and seize your computer, you tend to be a little paranoid." [0] [0] https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the-newspaper https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the...
- predictabl3 3y ago
  I am stunned at how this keeps getting more appalling. The judge signing a search warrant without a probable cause affidavit, the judge issuing a search warrant against the press violating federal law, the connections between the court and the hotel that houses Keri Newell's restaurant, the batshit public response Keri Newell posted, the fact she got a liquor license with a DUI, a claim that she had her identity stolen at a city council meeting. The fact the cops raided a paper for a story they didn't publish, even though they would have been fully protected to do so at all. It's not being widely covered by a city council woman's house was also raided. They took her phone and computer as well, leaving her and her sick husband alone with no way to call for help. Cops are scum. Marion is about 2 hours away from where I'm staying now. It might be a good thing I don't have a car. I'm furious. Going to be stopping by the KBI office today, I'm sure that's going to go well. (The KBI is under Kris Kobach and has said in response to this raid that "the press is not above the law".)
  - ajsnigrutin 3y ago
    Yep, government officals and zero personal responsibility. I have no idea why they get exempt from any kind of consequences for their actions, either private (getting sued) or criminal. Person X requested something without having probable cause, person Y signed that, both people have (or should have) the knowledge of what is needed to either sign or get the signature, neither did the required, both should lose their jobs and be liable for damages caused to the people affected. A bartender gets punished more for not checking IDs than those people.
  - mcphage 3y ago
    > The judge signing a search warrant without a probable cause affidavit, the judge issuing a search warrant against the press violating federal law This is why having judges be an elected position seems so crazy: at what point do they learn what they are and are not legally allowed to do?
    - predictabl3 3y ago
      Fun fact, she wasn't even elected. My understanding is that she was an appointee to an open seat.
      - mcphage 3y ago
        I think you and I have very different ideas of what makes a fact “fun” ;-)
stavros 3y ago
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- sojournerc 3y ago
  Got it. A few reddit comments are representative of a country of 350 million people.
  - lnxg33k1 3y ago
    Then who are these Americans? For sure, to be the kind of people who support sanctions on people in other country to motivate them to raise against their oppressors you look to suck big time in doing something against your oppressors who are apparently not representative of the people of the US of A. For how long we're working on forced tips? Police brutality? Public healthcare? Gun controls? Redistribution of wealth? To me it seems that there are a lot of things that americans don't want but are all there right now undisturbed regardless of the party in power that I think maybe the population of the US of A is just the plain shit we all see and have to deal with on daily basis (I wouldn't have anything against US of A if its policies wouldn't metastasizes to the rest of the western world or wouldn't be used to oppress people in non-western world)
    - pc86 3y ago
      This comment reads like MCMC-generated text where the prompt is off just a bit.
    - serf 3y ago
      throwing away your other points : there are a lot of factions to consider when thinking about why an internet post is or isn't a good indicator of a general consensus. There are companies that exist only to advocate certain talking points across the span of the internet; that's their entire reason for existence. Police unions buy their services, protesting groups buy their services, political parties buy their services, gun rights and gun control advocates both buy their services alike. Their entire job is to posit certain points as loudly as they can on publicly visible medias, and cheerlead for 'their team' on certain talking points and defenses. A popular public forum/chat/socialmediasite discussing loaded political topics will never be an indicator of the public at large because too much incentive exists for propagandists from every angle to game the system at such opportunities. Those voices with more money/backing/support will always drown out the true signal. Thusly these samples that you're basing your entire take on a country filled with people are inherently flawed. Believe it or not.
jsnell 3y ago
Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37105764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37105764 (200 points, 101 comments) Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37102271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37102271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37096015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37096015
bratgpttamer 3y ago
This seems to be getting a lot of national attention (good), and regardless of whatever comes of that (or the sexual harassment developments), I feel like at least they'll always be known in that town as the dirtbags who killed Mrs. Meyer and stole her Alexis.
bettercallsalad 3y ago
In US, increasingly like Western Europe free speech is gaining the equivalence of safe speech. Speech where no one questions the authority or assumes the best of them. But first amendment was meant for hard speech. It wasn’t for speech that just merely assumes you have the right to go to a square and put up a sign. And in a culture like that, nation states can easily get away with this kind of behavior.
- Eumenes 3y ago
  Restricting speech is gaining popularity in the US too: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/20/most-americans-favor-restrictions-on-false-information-violent-content-online/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/20/most-amer...
  - sambull 3y ago
    Crisis makes it easy. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1597/free-speech-during-wartime https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1597/free-speec...
- wittenbunk 3y ago
  This is imagined nonsense.... The US has the most permissive definition of free speech in the world. Free speech is referring to freedom from government oppression, not freedom from societal consequences.
  - FreeFull 3y ago
    Wouldn't you say that a police raid is government oppression, though?
    - nathanaldensr 3y ago
      It's not really a question. It is government oppression since police are government employees. Whether their presence is specifically to suppress speech is another question.
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141 points by uptown 3y ago

CBS neglects to mention that the editor of the paper also said that Marion Police Chief Gideon Cody was also being investigated by the paper for claims of sexual harassment. "EM: So the backstory that we haven't told, because we don't wanna get in trouble, is that we've been investigating the police chief [Gideon Cody]. When he was named Chief just two months ago, we got an outpouring of calls from his former co-workers making a wide array of allegations against him saying that he was about to be demoted at his previous job and that he retired to avoid demotion and punishment over sexual misconduct charges and other things. We had half a dozen or more different anonymous sources calling in about that. Well, we never ran that because we never could get any of them to go on the record, and we never could get his personnel file. But the allegations—including the identities of who made the allegations—were on one of the computers that got seized. I may be paranoid that this has anything to do with it, but when people come and seize your computer, you tend to be a little paranoid." [0] [0] https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the-newspaper https://thehandbasket.substack.com/p/a-conversation-with-the...

predictabl3 3y ago
I am stunned at how this keeps getting more appalling. The judge signing a search warrant without a probable cause affidavit, the judge issuing a search warrant against the press violating federal law, the connections between the court and the hotel that houses Keri Newell's restaurant, the batshit public response Keri Newell posted, the fact she got a liquor license with a DUI, a claim that she had her identity stolen at a city council meeting. The fact the cops raided a paper for a story they didn't publish, even though they would have been fully protected to do so at all. It's not being widely covered by a city council woman's house was also raided. They took her phone and computer as well, leaving her and her sick husband alone with no way to call for help. Cops are scum. Marion is about 2 hours away from where I'm staying now. It might be a good thing I don't have a car. I'm furious. Going to be stopping by the KBI office today, I'm sure that's going to go well. (The KBI is under Kris Kobach and has said in response to this raid that "the press is not above the law".)
- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  Yep, government officals and zero personal responsibility. I have no idea why they get exempt from any kind of consequences for their actions, either private (getting sued) or criminal. Person X requested something without having probable cause, person Y signed that, both people have (or should have) the knowledge of what is needed to either sign or get the signature, neither did the required, both should lose their jobs and be liable for damages caused to the people affected. A bartender gets punished more for not checking IDs than those people.
- mcphage 3y ago
  > The judge signing a search warrant without a probable cause affidavit, the judge issuing a search warrant against the press violating federal law This is why having judges be an elected position seems so crazy: at what point do they learn what they are and are not legally allowed to do?
  - predictabl3 3y ago
    Fun fact, she wasn't even elected. My understanding is that she was an appointee to an open seat.
    - mcphage 3y ago
      I think you and I have very different ideas of what makes a fact “fun” ;-)

stavros 3y ago

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sojournerc 3y ago
Got it. A few reddit comments are representative of a country of 350 million people.
- lnxg33k1 3y ago
  Then who are these Americans? For sure, to be the kind of people who support sanctions on people in other country to motivate them to raise against their oppressors you look to suck big time in doing something against your oppressors who are apparently not representative of the people of the US of A. For how long we're working on forced tips? Police brutality? Public healthcare? Gun controls? Redistribution of wealth? To me it seems that there are a lot of things that americans don't want but are all there right now undisturbed regardless of the party in power that I think maybe the population of the US of A is just the plain shit we all see and have to deal with on daily basis (I wouldn't have anything against US of A if its policies wouldn't metastasizes to the rest of the western world or wouldn't be used to oppress people in non-western world)
  - pc86 3y ago
    This comment reads like MCMC-generated text where the prompt is off just a bit.
  - serf 3y ago
    throwing away your other points : there are a lot of factions to consider when thinking about why an internet post is or isn't a good indicator of a general consensus. There are companies that exist only to advocate certain talking points across the span of the internet; that's their entire reason for existence. Police unions buy their services, protesting groups buy their services, political parties buy their services, gun rights and gun control advocates both buy their services alike. Their entire job is to posit certain points as loudly as they can on publicly visible medias, and cheerlead for 'their team' on certain talking points and defenses. A popular public forum/chat/socialmediasite discussing loaded political topics will never be an indicator of the public at large because too much incentive exists for propagandists from every angle to game the system at such opportunities. Those voices with more money/backing/support will always drown out the true signal. Thusly these samples that you're basing your entire take on a country filled with people are inherently flawed. Believe it or not.

jsnell 3y ago

Dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37105764 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37105764 (200 points, 101 comments) Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37102271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37102271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37096015 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37096015

bratgpttamer 3y ago

This seems to be getting a lot of national attention (good), and regardless of whatever comes of that (or the sexual harassment developments), I feel like at least they'll always be known in that town as the dirtbags who killed Mrs. Meyer and stole her Alexis.

bettercallsalad 3y ago

In US, increasingly like Western Europe free speech is gaining the equivalence of safe speech. Speech where no one questions the authority or assumes the best of them. But first amendment was meant for hard speech. It wasn’t for speech that just merely assumes you have the right to go to a square and put up a sign. And in a culture like that, nation states can easily get away with this kind of behavior.

Eumenes 3y ago
Restricting speech is gaining popularity in the US too: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/20/most-americans-favor-restrictions-on-false-information-violent-content-online/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/20/most-amer...
- sambull 3y ago
  Crisis makes it easy. https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1597/free-speech-during-wartime https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1597/free-speec...
wittenbunk 3y ago
This is imagined nonsense.... The US has the most permissive definition of free speech in the world. Free speech is referring to freedom from government oppression, not freedom from societal consequences.
- FreeFull 3y ago
  Wouldn't you say that a police raid is government oppression, though?
  - nathanaldensr 3y ago
    It's not really a question. It is government oppression since police are government employees. Whether their presence is specifically to suppress speech is another question.

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