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Sometimes I know what I want, and if a salesman starts trying to sell me a 'concept' or a 'lifestyle' instead of a car, I'm walking away.

by xen0 3y ago

stavros 3y ago
If you're at the lot, you've already been sold on the concept and the lifestyle, and you're there to buy. Amazon doesn't try to tell you how great sweaters are when you're on the checkout page of buying one.
- justinclift 3y ago
  > If you're at the lot ... That misses a whole bunch of reasons a person could be "at the lot" other than for buying. Easy, real world examples: * You're killing time while waiting for the other half at a nearby store * There's a whole group of vehicle "lots" next to each other, so you're taking a look at all of them for a better understanding of your options * Your car is being repaired / in for a service (or similar) (etc)
  - stavros 3y ago
    > * You're killing time while waiting for the other half at a nearby store I wouldn't kill time at a fertilizer store if I didn't have a garden, though. > * There's a whole group of vehicle "lots" next to each other, so you're taking a look at all of them for a better understanding of your options This still means that I realize the value of a car for me. > * Your car is being repaired / in for a service (or similar) Same as the one above here. Selling you on the concept/lifestyle is for when you don't yet know you need a specific thing. When you're at the lot, you're past that.
    - Miraltar 3y ago
      Lifestyle and concepts in this context can be more specific. This particular car would be perfect for your daily routine because of this, this and this... Oh but this one allows you to take your children on holidays conveniently beacause of that... Yes you already have/want a car but you might still be convinced to buy a car you didn't plan.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      > This still means that I realize the value of a car for me. That wasn't what you were presenting in that sentence though, which is what I was responding to. ;)
    - m_0x 3y ago
      > I wouldn't kill time at a fertilizer store if I didn't have a garden, though. You would if you had nothing to do other than walking into a fertilizer store. Very small chance of happening that to you, but I do like going into stores and see what they sell even if I don't need anything in there for me. I might learn something.
- makapuf 3y ago
  Often if I want <product> from <company with 1 famous product> I go to the page <company.com> and might find <product> somewhere, buried under "solutions" / "contact me for inquiry of your solution" pages. If I want to buy a mug I don't need to delegate my Coffee solution choosing expertise.
  - almostnormal 3y ago
    > If I want to buy a mug I don't need to delegate my Coffee solution choosing expertise. Sometimes I wish I could delegate purchase of trivial items, especially if there are too many options to choose from. The investment of time can be excessive, with less than satisfying results. Of course I would not like to delegate it to the manufacturers or vendors.
- xen0 3y ago
  The job of BMW's advertisers isn't to convince me to buy a car. It's to convince me to buy their car instead of one from Tesla or Mercedes. And me walking into a BMW dealership does not mean I've decided to conduct business with them.
WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
> if a salesman starts trying to sell me a 'concept' or a 'lifestyle' instead of a car, I'm walking away. In these places, you're also getting berated for coming in with a XY problem on your way out.

Sometimes I know what I want, and if a salesman starts trying to sell me a 'concept' or a 'lifestyle' instead of a car, I'm walking away.

by xen0 3y ago

Sometimes I know what I want, and if a salesman starts trying to sell me a 'concept' or a 'lifestyle' instead of a car, I'm walking away.

stavros 3y ago

If you're at the lot, you've already been sold on the concept and the lifestyle, and you're there to buy. Amazon doesn't try to tell you how great sweaters are when you're on the checkout page of buying one.

justinclift 3y ago
> If you're at the lot ... That misses a whole bunch of reasons a person could be "at the lot" other than for buying. Easy, real world examples: * You're killing time while waiting for the other half at a nearby store * There's a whole group of vehicle "lots" next to each other, so you're taking a look at all of them for a better understanding of your options * Your car is being repaired / in for a service (or similar) (etc)
- stavros 3y ago
  > * You're killing time while waiting for the other half at a nearby store I wouldn't kill time at a fertilizer store if I didn't have a garden, though. > * There's a whole group of vehicle "lots" next to each other, so you're taking a look at all of them for a better understanding of your options This still means that I realize the value of a car for me. > * Your car is being repaired / in for a service (or similar) Same as the one above here. Selling you on the concept/lifestyle is for when you don't yet know you need a specific thing. When you're at the lot, you're past that.
  - Miraltar 3y ago
    Lifestyle and concepts in this context can be more specific. This particular car would be perfect for your daily routine because of this, this and this... Oh but this one allows you to take your children on holidays conveniently beacause of that... Yes you already have/want a car but you might still be convinced to buy a car you didn't plan.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > This still means that I realize the value of a car for me. That wasn't what you were presenting in that sentence though, which is what I was responding to. ;)
  - m_0x 3y ago
    > I wouldn't kill time at a fertilizer store if I didn't have a garden, though. You would if you had nothing to do other than walking into a fertilizer store. Very small chance of happening that to you, but I do like going into stores and see what they sell even if I don't need anything in there for me. I might learn something.
makapuf 3y ago
Often if I want <product> from <company with 1 famous product> I go to the page <company.com> and might find <product> somewhere, buried under "solutions" / "contact me for inquiry of your solution" pages. If I want to buy a mug I don't need to delegate my Coffee solution choosing expertise.
- almostnormal 3y ago
  > If I want to buy a mug I don't need to delegate my Coffee solution choosing expertise. Sometimes I wish I could delegate purchase of trivial items, especially if there are too many options to choose from. The investment of time can be excessive, with less than satisfying results. Of course I would not like to delegate it to the manufacturers or vendors.
xen0 3y ago
The job of BMW's advertisers isn't to convince me to buy a car. It's to convince me to buy their car instead of one from Tesla or Mercedes. And me walking into a BMW dealership does not mean I've decided to conduct business with them.

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago

> if a salesman starts trying to sell me a 'concept' or a 'lifestyle' instead of a car, I'm walking away. In these places, you're also getting berated for coming in with a XY problem on your way out.