> Not everyone is capable of quickly optimizing SQL I mean that's true, but equally not everyone is capable of using an ORM. I don't think SQL is inherently an

> Not everyone is capable of quickly optimizing SQL I mean that's true, but equally not everyone is capable of using an ORM. I don't think SQL is inherently any harder to learn. At my last job, I had juniors who had never used SQL at all productive in SQL within a couple of weeks, and using "complex" SQL like JSON aggregation and windows function with a few months. They were a little intimidated by it when they started, but didn't find it too hard to learn in the end.