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If an independent repair man a la Louis Rossman can make a living doing component level repair on macs, then I'd expect the margin to be good enough that the or

If an independent repair man a la Louis Rossman can make a living doing component level repair on macs, then I'd expect the margin to be good enough that the original company could do it as well. However, the economic sense to Apple is about selling new products, and an actual repair program would cut into product sales.

gregjor 3y ago
I can make a good living writing custom code, but I can’t scale my business for various reasons. Lots of things can turn a good profit at small scale but not work out at Apple scale. Best Buy got into the service and repair business at scale when they bought GeekSquad. It kind of flopped for them. And you can find no end of complaints about incompetent service and even scams from Best Buy.
- whyagaintango 3y ago
  For your previous comment. Do I assume you are a genX? - one can give tons of reasons for non-repairable devices but the planet has only so much resources. Eventually Apple will enter the group of terrible companies like exxon/BP. Sure Tim Cook will be having the billions but if more companies like tesla is following apple's strategy if vertical integration Either govts will interfere Or Planet is trashed. - TV, phones have always been repairable. Even recently some one posted repairing a sony Trinitron. - even if apple doesnot want to do the repair of a chip, capacitor they can make them available - or not sue if 3rd party does it - Louis rossman can replace a failed charging chip from an old logic/mother board. He/others like ifixit only tell apple to supply it or allow others to manufacture.
  - gregjor 3y ago
    You have my age off, by at least a decade. I worked for Apple in 1988-91 if that gives a clue. And I was around 30 at the time. I don’t disagree about big companies trashing the environment with disposable goods. I keep my electronics for a long time. I don’t own a car. I try to consume very little. Individual efforts don’t make enough difference, though. Enough people have to vote with their wallets to stop predatory and wasteful companies. The realities of why Apple does what they do seem easily explained with simple economics, without invoking conspiracies. Sony stopped making Triniton TVs and monitors in the early 2000s. How many of those do you suppose ended up in landfills? Someone repairing one today describes a hobbyist or tinkerer. Sony didn’t intend or support end-users repairing their TVs. Try doing that with a modern flat screen. Individuals can and do fix and upgrade consumer electronics, but they represent a negligible percentage of the consumer base.
    - whyagaintango 3y ago
      Trinitron was an example. A lot of tv are repaired and sold in East europe, Asia. It is negligible because repair is difficult.
    - helf 3y ago
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gregjor 3y ago

I can make a good living writing custom code, but I can’t scale my business for various reasons. Lots of things can turn a good profit at small scale but not work out at Apple scale. Best Buy got into the service and repair business at scale when they bought GeekSquad. It kind of flopped for them. And you can find no end of complaints about incompetent service and even scams from Best Buy.

whyagaintango 3y ago
For your previous comment. Do I assume you are a genX? - one can give tons of reasons for non-repairable devices but the planet has only so much resources. Eventually Apple will enter the group of terrible companies like exxon/BP. Sure Tim Cook will be having the billions but if more companies like tesla is following apple's strategy if vertical integration Either govts will interfere Or Planet is trashed. - TV, phones have always been repairable. Even recently some one posted repairing a sony Trinitron. - even if apple doesnot want to do the repair of a chip, capacitor they can make them available - or not sue if 3rd party does it - Louis rossman can replace a failed charging chip from an old logic/mother board. He/others like ifixit only tell apple to supply it or allow others to manufacture.
- gregjor 3y ago
  You have my age off, by at least a decade. I worked for Apple in 1988-91 if that gives a clue. And I was around 30 at the time. I don’t disagree about big companies trashing the environment with disposable goods. I keep my electronics for a long time. I don’t own a car. I try to consume very little. Individual efforts don’t make enough difference, though. Enough people have to vote with their wallets to stop predatory and wasteful companies. The realities of why Apple does what they do seem easily explained with simple economics, without invoking conspiracies. Sony stopped making Triniton TVs and monitors in the early 2000s. How many of those do you suppose ended up in landfills? Someone repairing one today describes a hobbyist or tinkerer. Sony didn’t intend or support end-users repairing their TVs. Try doing that with a modern flat screen. Individuals can and do fix and upgrade consumer electronics, but they represent a negligible percentage of the consumer base.
  - whyagaintango 3y ago
    Trinitron was an example. A lot of tv are repaired and sold in East europe, Asia. It is negligible because repair is difficult.
  - helf 3y ago
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